Dorset plans for another strike by firefighters

CONTINGENCY PLANS: Darran Gunter

CONTINGENCY PLANS: Darran Gunter

First published in News

SERVICE chiefs are drawing up plans to ensure Dorset is covered during a firefighters’ strike which will span three days next week.

The action will cover certain times between Friday, May 2 and Sunday, May 4.

It is part of an ongoing dispute between The Fire Brigades Union (FBU) and the government over pensions.

Strikes were held last year to protest against plans for a later retirement age, as well as changes to pensions.

Further action is proposed for 12pm-5pm on May 2, 2pm-2am on May 3 and 10am-3pm on May 4.

Dorset Fire and Rescue Service said it will be providing a reduced emergency response over the period.

Chief Fire Officer Darran Gunter said: “As with the previous strikes we will once again be putting our contingency arrangements in place. We are disappointed the FBU and the government have not been able to come to an agreement about the firefighters pension scheme at this stage. It is important to stress that this is a national dispute.

He added: “We have put plans in place to ensure Dorset Fire and Rescue is able to respond to incidents, but we would ask members of the public to take extra steps to reduce the risk of a fire breaking out in their home. We will continue to work with all our partners locally to ensure businesses; homes and our environment can be kept as safe as possible from fire during this period of industrial action.”

The brigade says it will be issuing fire safety advice in the run up to this latest round of strike action.

For fire safety advice call 01305 252600 or see dorsetfire.gov.uk

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2:24pm Fri 25 Apr 14

JamesYoung says...

I'm really struggling to understand what the strike is about. I've played with teh calculator on the government website and unless i'm misunderstanding it, every fireman who is currently paying into the pension scheme will be better off, whether they retire at 55 or 60. Isn't it only the new joiners who will have to work longer?
I'm really struggling to understand what the strike is about. I've played with teh calculator on the government website and unless i'm misunderstanding it, every fireman who is currently paying into the pension scheme will be better off, whether they retire at 55 or 60. Isn't it only the new joiners who will have to work longer? JamesYoung
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2:44pm Fri 25 Apr 14

woodsedge says...

JamesYoung wrote:
I'm really struggling to understand what the strike is about. I've played with teh calculator on the government website and unless i'm misunderstanding it, every fireman who is currently paying into the pension scheme will be better off, whether they retire at 55 or 60. Isn't it only the new joiners who will have to work longer?
James, the attached link may help explain the position of the FBU:

http://www.img.fbu.o
rg.uk/wp-content/upl
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nsions-LEAFLET-A5-X-
4pp-NEW-27_6_13-LOW-
RES.pdf
[quote][p][bold]JamesYoung[/bold] wrote: I'm really struggling to understand what the strike is about. I've played with teh calculator on the government website and unless i'm misunderstanding it, every fireman who is currently paying into the pension scheme will be better off, whether they retire at 55 or 60. Isn't it only the new joiners who will have to work longer?[/p][/quote]James, the attached link may help explain the position of the FBU: http://www.img.fbu.o rg.uk/wp-content/upl oads/2013/07/9560-Pe nsions-LEAFLET-A5-X- 4pp-NEW-27_6_13-LOW- RES.pdf woodsedge
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4:58pm Fri 25 Apr 14

shy talk says...

Read the link. I find it very hard to believe that if a firefighter who has to leave the service for whatever reason will lose their pension. If you have contributed say ten years worth you will receive a pension of that amount. Be it preserved until you reach retirement age. What I do disagree with is they are putting up a firefighters retirement age to sixty.

I quote from the FBU “We all know that firefighting is a physically demanding occupation and that for large numbers of firefighters maintaining occupational fitness to the new NPA of 60 is an unrealistic expectation. Everybody knows that fitness declines with age.”
Read the link. I find it very hard to believe that if a firefighter who has to leave the service for whatever reason will lose their pension. If you have contributed say ten years worth you will receive a pension of that amount. Be it preserved until you reach retirement age. What I do disagree with is they are putting up a firefighters retirement age to sixty. I quote from the FBU “We all know that firefighting is a physically demanding occupation and that for large numbers of firefighters maintaining occupational fitness to the new NPA of 60 is an unrealistic expectation. Everybody knows that fitness declines with age.” shy talk
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9:15am Sat 26 Apr 14

Dorset Guy1 says...

Most Fire Fighters in Dorset are Part Time Retained Officers and will not be on strike!
Most Fire Fighters in Dorset are Part Time Retained Officers and will not be on strike! Dorset Guy1
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9:31am Sat 26 Apr 14

Hunter4 says...

Good on you firefighters, keep up the fight! The goverment are unrealistic clueless bullies and need to be stood up to.
There are not any 60yr olds who could carry a full grown adult down a ladder from an upstairs window, one of many tasks a firefighter has to do across the country on a daily basis.
The public and common sense are on your side.
Good on you firefighters, keep up the fight! The goverment are unrealistic clueless bullies and need to be stood up to. There are not any 60yr olds who could carry a full grown adult down a ladder from an upstairs window, one of many tasks a firefighter has to do across the country on a daily basis. The public and common sense are on your side. Hunter4
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10:39am Sat 26 Apr 14

JamesYoung says...

Hunter4 wrote:
Good on you firefighters, keep up the fight! The goverment are unrealistic clueless bullies and need to be stood up to.
There are not any 60yr olds who could carry a full grown adult down a ladder from an upstairs window, one of many tasks a firefighter has to do across the country on a daily basis.
The public and common sense are on your side.
I'm not sure that this is true.
Belgium - retirement age 60 (55 for volunteers)
Croatia - no later than 65, retirement age is based on years of service - 30 years of service entitles you to retire at 59
Denmark - 60
Estonia, 65
Finland - 65-68
France - 57-67 depending on service
Germany - 60-62
Italy - theoretically 53, but normally 58
Ntherlands - max age 59
Norway - 57-60
Slovakia - after 25 years service
Spain - 60
Sweden - at 58, or after 30 years service (which could be later).
To be frank, if our liberal European cousins have retirement policies in line with ours, i don't see what the problem is.
[quote][p][bold]Hunter4[/bold] wrote: Good on you firefighters, keep up the fight! The goverment are unrealistic clueless bullies and need to be stood up to. There are not any 60yr olds who could carry a full grown adult down a ladder from an upstairs window, one of many tasks a firefighter has to do across the country on a daily basis. The public and common sense are on your side.[/p][/quote]I'm not sure that this is true. Belgium - retirement age 60 (55 for volunteers) Croatia - no later than 65, retirement age is based on years of service - 30 years of service entitles you to retire at 59 Denmark - 60 Estonia, 65 Finland - 65-68 France - 57-67 depending on service Germany - 60-62 Italy - theoretically 53, but normally 58 Ntherlands - max age 59 Norway - 57-60 Slovakia - after 25 years service Spain - 60 Sweden - at 58, or after 30 years service (which could be later). To be frank, if our liberal European cousins have retirement policies in line with ours, i don't see what the problem is. JamesYoung
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10:43am Sat 26 Apr 14

JamesYoung says...

woodsedge wrote:
JamesYoung wrote:
I'm really struggling to understand what the strike is about. I've played with teh calculator on the government website and unless i'm misunderstanding it, every fireman who is currently paying into the pension scheme will be better off, whether they retire at 55 or 60. Isn't it only the new joiners who will have to work longer?
James, the attached link may help explain the position of the FBU:

http://www.img.fbu.o

rg.uk/wp-content/upl

oads/2013/07/9560-Pe

nsions-LEAFLET-A5-X-

4pp-NEW-27_6_13-LOW-

RES.pdf
OK, so this starts to make sense.
Clearly, pension commitments should be adhered to if a firefighter is genuinely unfit for work, but is the govt really saying that pension rights will be forfeit if a firefighter leaves the service? That's not true for any other pension scheme that i know of. I'd like to know the truth of this because the govt says something different entirely.
As for the rest of it, everybody is going to have to save more for their retirement. I don't see why firefighters shouldn't as well.
As for retiring later, well that should only apply to new firefighters, but i don't see any reason why the age shouldn't be raised in line with European retirement ages.
[quote][p][bold]woodsedge[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JamesYoung[/bold] wrote: I'm really struggling to understand what the strike is about. I've played with teh calculator on the government website and unless i'm misunderstanding it, every fireman who is currently paying into the pension scheme will be better off, whether they retire at 55 or 60. Isn't it only the new joiners who will have to work longer?[/p][/quote]James, the attached link may help explain the position of the FBU: http://www.img.fbu.o rg.uk/wp-content/upl oads/2013/07/9560-Pe nsions-LEAFLET-A5-X- 4pp-NEW-27_6_13-LOW- RES.pdf[/p][/quote]OK, so this starts to make sense. Clearly, pension commitments should be adhered to if a firefighter is genuinely unfit for work, but is the govt really saying that pension rights will be forfeit if a firefighter leaves the service? That's not true for any other pension scheme that i know of. I'd like to know the truth of this because the govt says something different entirely. As for the rest of it, everybody is going to have to save more for their retirement. I don't see why firefighters shouldn't as well. As for retiring later, well that should only apply to new firefighters, but i don't see any reason why the age shouldn't be raised in line with European retirement ages. JamesYoung
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