Proposals to develop resort into a leading tourist destination

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CALLS have been made to restore Weymouth to its status as a leading tourist resort.

Improved infrastructure and a more ‘aggressive’ tourism strategy could be the keys to improving the area Following a backlash over an article in the Observer newspaper suggesting that Weymouth was a place ‘beset by low wages, lack of transportation, isolation and poverty of aspiration’, experts have spoken out about what could be done to improve the area.

Tourism bosses and councillors believe that despite a failure to build a proper Olympic legacy the area still has great potential.

The council’s decision to close the tourist information centre also drew a backlash from residents and visitors.

The borough has seen more and more being taken on by volunteers and community groups in recent years including Weymouth Pavilion, Weymouth Carnival and the Kite Festival.

Science journalist Michael Hanlon is one of the people behind Jurassica, an Eden Project-style £85 million subterranean geology park attraction proposed for Portland.

Mr Hanlon said: “The legacy of the Olympics has been disappointing to say the least although the Weymouth and Portland National Sailing Academy is brilliant.”

He said that an improved infrastructure, including better cycle routes and an improved phone signal would help enhance the area. He said it was about ‘bringing affluence.’ Mr Hanlon said: “It’s not enough to have a few attractions. Both the county and borough have to have a strategy for tourism that’s more aggressive.

“Areas don’t regenerate by themselves – they need help. I think Weymouth and Portland in particular needs help at the moment.”

He added: “We should not despair. I don’t think this area is anything like as catastrophically bad as has been suggested.”

The area is not a cultural ‘wasteland,’ as it had been described in the article, but there are real problems and it did needs help, Mr Hanlon said.

Weymouth and Portland Borough Council tourism and culture spokesman Rachel Rogers said the article raised some very real issues.

Cllr Rogers said earlier this month councillors agreed to introduce a Business Rate Reoccupation Relief to encourage businesses to move into premises that have been empty for more than 12 months in the borough.

She said: “As far as tourism is concerned we need to be broadening the scope of our offering. We need to be building on the summer season.”

She added: “We need to be developing activity-based tourism and looking at developing more links to do with our extensive history and culture, so we can develop more tourism in the shoulder months.”

She added they were looking to improve both the quality and diversity of what was on offer. The borough council is already working with the county council on a joined-up tourism strategy.

Cllr Rogers said that cultural aspects were something that needed to be looked at but that it is not the role of the council to put on events.

She said it is the council’s role to facilitate and join up people that want to put on events.

She said: “The council’s role is not to put on festivals – councils are there to provide support and guidance.”

The Olympics had provided a legacy in terms of the new road to Dorchester, new cycle routes and other infrastructure but Cllr Rogers said that things like the park and ride could have been better used and capitalised on.

She added that there had been a lot of national funding for cultural events in the borough in 2012 but that it didn’t become ‘ingrained in the psyche’ because it was limited to one year.

She said cultural events were something that needed looking at.

 

Educational fight to create aspiration among young people

THE article in the Observer picked up on comments by the chief inspector of schools Sir Michael Wilshaw that ‘aspiration and achievement was now a major issue in seaside towns’.

Cllr Rachel Rogers said that lack of opportunity should not be confused with lack of ambition.
She said businesses should be encouraged to come to the borough and that should be tied to the ambition of young people ‘so they don’t feel they have to go elsewhere and they can have a successful career in the area they were born’.

Budmouth Centre of Excellence at Budmouth College is designed to prepare students for the workplace and gives them the chance to work with business representatives on a variety of projects.
The blueprint has been so successful that there are more centres currently being built in Dorset and the hope is to create a case to put to the government to encourage them to do a national roll-out.

Marcel Ciantar, from CEIL, said the ethos of the centre is about raising aspirations and creating self-belief.

He said: “We get the students to believe in themselves. That links to aspiration. You can’t have aspiration if you don’t believe in yourself.”

He added that in his opinion it wasn’t a bad thing if students went out into the world away from where they had grown up, as they would then bring their experiences and expertise back to their home area.

He said: “They have to be inspired by outside the area in order to come back with renewed energy.

“That’s why you go away – to be inspired. If you want to change the locality you need to think outside the box and get inspired from elsewhere in order to bring back energy.”

He added: “High aspiration comes from influence; influence comes from experiencing a taste of success.

“That will never leave you, it’s there for life.”

 

BID to create off-season footfall

THE BID is looking to increase footfall into the town, especially in the out of season period.
Joint chairman of the Weymouth BID Alistair Clarke, pictured, said its role is to encourage people into the town and it is looking at ‘all sorts of angles’ to improve it.

This summer there is an Alice in Wonderland trail though the town for families and building on the success of the Olympic Ambassadors, a new welcoming face to the town will be launched next month.

The Weymouth Wayfarers are volunteers who will help tourists get around the town, providing help and information.

Dressed in the BID’s characteristic orange, the Wayfarers will be a visible presence in the town, Mr Clarke said.

The BID is looking to create a marketing strategy for the town to promote it and encourage people to visit in the months from October to December, he added.

Mr Clarke added that it would be putting on events like the Maritime Festival in September and the Victorian Show Night in December to boost trade.

He said: “We are looking at all sorts of angles to improve the town.”

He added that the BID is coming to the end of the first year of its five-year project and already lots of events are happening.

He added: “That’s what the BID’s about, getting people into the town.”

 

Top names planned for Pavilion
 

THE Pavilion will mark its first birthday under new management next month.
General manager Phil Say said it is doing well after its first year and said those in charge are hoping they can build on that success.

 

The Pavilion is run by a mixture of full and part-time staff and volunteers.
Mr Say said they were trying to put on ‘something for everyone’ from acts like the Moscow State Ballet, community groups, dog shows, Eric Knowles from the Antiques Roadshow and comedians like Jim Davidson, to events for a potentially younger audience like band, Reel Big Fish, Soil and comedian Russell Kane.

 

Last year’s panto production, Cinderella, which ran into early January, saw a 25 per cent increase in ticket sales on each of the last 15 years.
 

Mr Say said: “Visitors and residents alike want to see us succeed and people are telling us we are doing what they hoped we’d do and more.”
 

He said in five years’ time they wanted to be pulling in top name comics and West End productions, as well as retaining their links to community events, and urged people to support the shows.

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6:44am Fri 27 Jun 14

islandman says...

But why is the Pavilion still displaying a huge advert for LAST years pantomime ??????
But why is the Pavilion still displaying a huge advert for LAST years pantomime ?????? islandman
  • Score: 29

7:52am Fri 27 Jun 14

Get a grip says...

Perhaps the Echo could be a bit more posative in the way it reports news items.

I see a new sports shop is to open in St Mary Street. No mention of this in the Echo.

Come on get behind the town
Perhaps the Echo could be a bit more posative in the way it reports news items. I see a new sports shop is to open in St Mary Street. No mention of this in the Echo. Come on get behind the town Get a grip
  • Score: 32

8:05am Fri 27 Jun 14

Get a grip says...

Sorry about the typo should read posative

The council could try and crack down on fly posting. They could start with asking the market operator, who runs from a council owned car park, to stop fly posting his leaflets on cars parked in council owned car
Sorry about the typo should read posative The council could try and crack down on fly posting. They could start with asking the market operator, who runs from a council owned car park, to stop fly posting his leaflets on cars parked in council owned car Get a grip
  • Score: 18

8:05am Fri 27 Jun 14

arlbergbahn says...

What does this Journalist person mean by "lack of transportation"?
What does this Journalist person mean by "lack of transportation"? arlbergbahn
  • Score: 0

8:22am Fri 27 Jun 14

wey2go says...

here we go... MORE money going on wowing tourists rather than supporting locals (im sure they'll claim they'll be more money generated for locals... im in a job not affected by season, what benefits will i see?).

Olympic legacy is a JOKE, we dont have 1 person on the WBC dedicated to sport in the area... its the hard working volunteers who keep our kids off the streets.
here we go... MORE money going on wowing tourists rather than supporting locals (im sure they'll claim they'll be more money generated for locals... im in a job not affected by season, what benefits will i see?). Olympic legacy is a JOKE, we dont have 1 person on the WBC dedicated to sport in the area... its the hard working volunteers who keep our kids off the streets. wey2go
  • Score: 16

8:36am Fri 27 Jun 14

tedbungy says...

wey2go wrote:
here we go... MORE money going on wowing tourists rather than supporting locals (im sure they'll claim they'll be more money generated for locals... im in a job not affected by season, what benefits will i see?).

Olympic legacy is a JOKE, we dont have 1 person on the WBC dedicated to sport in the area... its the hard working volunteers who keep our kids off the streets.
I agree with most of this post, yes we need visitors in the summer but what about us. If it was not for volunteers so many things would just not happen. Take football hudreds of local kids play, the pitches are not fit for purpose, where can they train in the winter, a compleate lack of outdoor lit training areas.
Carnival ,kite festival and Pavilion, volunteers with out their hard work they would all disaper.
[quote][p][bold]wey2go[/bold] wrote: here we go... MORE money going on wowing tourists rather than supporting locals (im sure they'll claim they'll be more money generated for locals... im in a job not affected by season, what benefits will i see?). Olympic legacy is a JOKE, we dont have 1 person on the WBC dedicated to sport in the area... its the hard working volunteers who keep our kids off the streets.[/p][/quote]I agree with most of this post, yes we need visitors in the summer but what about us. If it was not for volunteers so many things would just not happen. Take football hudreds of local kids play, the pitches are not fit for purpose, where can they train in the winter, a compleate lack of outdoor lit training areas. Carnival ,kite festival and Pavilion, volunteers with out their hard work they would all disaper. tedbungy
  • Score: 19

8:42am Fri 27 Jun 14

banknote says...

I'm amazed, the Borough Council appears to have last woken-up.

The only problem is that the're at least 40 years late!
I'm amazed, the Borough Council appears to have last woken-up. The only problem is that the're at least 40 years late! banknote
  • Score: 19

8:53am Fri 27 Jun 14

Rocksalt says...

tedbungy wrote:
wey2go wrote:
here we go... MORE money going on wowing tourists rather than supporting locals (im sure they'll claim they'll be more money generated for locals... im in a job not affected by season, what benefits will i see?).

Olympic legacy is a JOKE, we dont have 1 person on the WBC dedicated to sport in the area... its the hard working volunteers who keep our kids off the streets.
I agree with most of this post, yes we need visitors in the summer but what about us. If it was not for volunteers so many things would just not happen. Take football hudreds of local kids play, the pitches are not fit for purpose, where can they train in the winter, a compleate lack of outdoor lit training areas.
Carnival ,kite festival and Pavilion, volunteers with out their hard work they would all disaper.
I accept that it costs money to promote tourism, but if done successfully it generates money for the local economy and possibly relatively quickly. Sports pitches are a good thing, but there isn't the same short - term return.

In reality the question is whether you are prepared to pay higher council tax to fund more and better sports pitches.
[quote][p][bold]tedbungy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]wey2go[/bold] wrote: here we go... MORE money going on wowing tourists rather than supporting locals (im sure they'll claim they'll be more money generated for locals... im in a job not affected by season, what benefits will i see?). Olympic legacy is a JOKE, we dont have 1 person on the WBC dedicated to sport in the area... its the hard working volunteers who keep our kids off the streets.[/p][/quote]I agree with most of this post, yes we need visitors in the summer but what about us. If it was not for volunteers so many things would just not happen. Take football hudreds of local kids play, the pitches are not fit for purpose, where can they train in the winter, a compleate lack of outdoor lit training areas. Carnival ,kite festival and Pavilion, volunteers with out their hard work they would all disaper.[/p][/quote]I accept that it costs money to promote tourism, but if done successfully it generates money for the local economy and possibly relatively quickly. Sports pitches are a good thing, but there isn't the same short - term return. In reality the question is whether you are prepared to pay higher council tax to fund more and better sports pitches. Rocksalt
  • Score: 9

8:58am Fri 27 Jun 14

jokerr25 says...

Weymouth is dead since the olympicswe knew Iit would nows happen when r people gunna realise. To busy worryin about everybody else than us. Time walk gone thanks to olympics nothe fort no so good as it were 10 year ago. Sea life not worth the money its drowning people just like our original weymouth spirits
Weymouth is dead since the olympicswe knew Iit would nows happen when r people gunna realise. To busy worryin about everybody else than us. Time walk gone thanks to olympics nothe fort no so good as it were 10 year ago. Sea life not worth the money its drowning people just like our original weymouth spirits jokerr25
  • Score: -19

9:01am Fri 27 Jun 14

jokerr25 says...

Oh n shall I say about fireworks. Carnival n kite fest thats what draws people in. Its been around for years GONE !!! Or not like it used to be n im ashamed to call myself a weymouthen
Oh n shall I say about fireworks. Carnival n kite fest thats what draws people in. Its been around for years GONE !!! Or not like it used to be n im ashamed to call myself a weymouthen jokerr25
  • Score: -23

9:08am Fri 27 Jun 14

AManFromMars says...

Weymouth BID are utterly ineffectual.
The money wasted on the 'WE' branding which still hasn't been officially launched. Even more money wasted on the Alice in Wonderland promotion. Is it any wonder that businesses in town are failing to pay and wanting to end its sorry personal agenda ridden existence already.
Weymouth BID are utterly ineffectual. The money wasted on the 'WE' branding which still hasn't been officially launched. Even more money wasted on the Alice in Wonderland promotion. Is it any wonder that businesses in town are failing to pay and wanting to end its sorry personal agenda ridden existence already. AManFromMars
  • Score: 11

9:20am Fri 27 Jun 14

February1948 says...

Weymouth can be transformed. I have said it before in another post, during the Olympics the town was a different world. Clean, tidy, friendly and welcoming and a joy to visit. Target the "right" sort of tourist and it can become so again. Let's not get into a rant about the "right" sort of person please! Weymouth has everything - a gorgeous bay and surrounded by wonderful countryside. Tourism brings money in to the town which the Council should (!) then spend for the benefit of its tax payers. Start to attract good quality retailers, after all there are enough empty shops in good positions, by cutting business rates. Do something about the parking charges; offer reasonable park and ride fares and stop fleecing the public (local and visitor). More PCSOs walking about the town to keep an eye on the undesirables, etc. etc.
Weymouth can be transformed. I have said it before in another post, during the Olympics the town was a different world. Clean, tidy, friendly and welcoming and a joy to visit. Target the "right" sort of tourist and it can become so again. Let's not get into a rant about the "right" sort of person please! Weymouth has everything - a gorgeous bay and surrounded by wonderful countryside. Tourism brings money in to the town which the Council should (!) then spend for the benefit of its tax payers. Start to attract good quality retailers, after all there are enough empty shops in good positions, by cutting business rates. Do something about the parking charges; offer reasonable park and ride fares and stop fleecing the public (local and visitor). More PCSOs walking about the town to keep an eye on the undesirables, etc. etc. February1948
  • Score: 29

9:22am Fri 27 Jun 14

MrTomSmith says...

AManFromMars wrote:
Weymouth BID are utterly ineffectual.
The money wasted on the 'WE' branding which still hasn't been officially launched. Even more money wasted on the Alice in Wonderland promotion. Is it any wonder that businesses in town are failing to pay and wanting to end its sorry personal agenda ridden existence already.
Spot on.
[quote][p][bold]AManFromMars[/bold] wrote: Weymouth BID are utterly ineffectual. The money wasted on the 'WE' branding which still hasn't been officially launched. Even more money wasted on the Alice in Wonderland promotion. Is it any wonder that businesses in town are failing to pay and wanting to end its sorry personal agenda ridden existence already.[/p][/quote]Spot on. MrTomSmith
  • Score: 12

9:26am Fri 27 Jun 14

MrTomSmith says...

Get a grip wrote:
Perhaps the Echo could be a bit more posative in the way it reports news items.

I see a new sports shop is to open in St Mary Street. No mention of this in the Echo.

Come on get behind the town
Also agree, this Newspaper is like any other its only interested in one thing, its OWN SALES, it doesn't give a dam about the town. This whole week has been a complete farce with the completely one sided view from the reporter up in London.
[quote][p][bold]Get a grip[/bold] wrote: Perhaps the Echo could be a bit more posative in the way it reports news items. I see a new sports shop is to open in St Mary Street. No mention of this in the Echo. Come on get behind the town[/p][/quote]Also agree, this Newspaper is like any other its only interested in one thing, its OWN SALES, it doesn't give a dam about the town. This whole week has been a complete farce with the completely one sided view from the reporter up in London. MrTomSmith
  • Score: 14

9:34am Fri 27 Jun 14

MrTomSmith says...

islandman wrote:
But why is the Pavilion still displaying a huge advert for LAST years pantomime ??????
I expect they cost a fortune to put up, but your right the Cinderella poster is now of course 6 months out of date and its poor.
[quote][p][bold]islandman[/bold] wrote: But why is the Pavilion still displaying a huge advert for LAST years pantomime ??????[/p][/quote]I expect they cost a fortune to put up, but your right the Cinderella poster is now of course 6 months out of date and its poor. MrTomSmith
  • Score: 13

9:50am Fri 27 Jun 14

Get a grip says...

Can the Echo stop taking photographs of angry looking people with thier arms crossed.

How about the reporters getting out and about and looking for some good news stories.

Yes they have to report the bad but all I am asking is that they have a balance



They might find that sales go.

Worth a go

I wonder if the decline in reporting is linked to thier move to Granby?
Can the Echo stop taking photographs of angry looking people with thier arms crossed. How about the reporters getting out and about and looking for some good news stories. Yes they have to report the bad but all I am asking is that they have a balance They might find that sales go. Worth a go I wonder if the decline in reporting is linked to thier move to Granby? Get a grip
  • Score: 9

10:05am Fri 27 Jun 14

Phaedrus says...

It is a bit difficult to take all these proposals seriously when the town does not even have a Tourist Information Centre. I've heard a lot of very negative comments about this from visitors. And it is, for example, far from easy for a visitor to find the correct bus for an onward journey. The notice about buses at the railway station lists bus stops but does not show them on the map, in the bus stop area details are not easy to find.
Yes tourism does need promotion, like it or not Weymouth is a holiday resort and a decline in visitors would be bad for all of us.
The tourism market continues to change and Weymouth does have to change with it, but it would be a huge mistake to neglect our traditional bucket-and-spade visitors - this would be the classic marketing error of losing existing business in pursuit of new. Weymouth needs to work on basic quality factors such a cleanliness, welcoming atmosphere, improved information, consumer choice. Also better travel services and roads are a matter of major importance for Dorset as a whole. Other areas in England have more aggressive tourism programmes and we shall rue it if we are left behind.
It is a bit difficult to take all these proposals seriously when the town does not even have a Tourist Information Centre. I've heard a lot of very negative comments about this from visitors. And it is, for example, far from easy for a visitor to find the correct bus for an onward journey. The notice about buses at the railway station lists bus stops but does not show them on the map, in the bus stop area details are not easy to find. Yes tourism does need promotion, like it or not Weymouth is a holiday resort and a decline in visitors would be bad for all of us. The tourism market continues to change and Weymouth does have to change with it, but it would be a huge mistake to neglect our traditional bucket-and-spade visitors - this would be the classic marketing error of losing existing business in pursuit of new. Weymouth needs to work on basic quality factors such a cleanliness, welcoming atmosphere, improved information, consumer choice. Also better travel services and roads are a matter of major importance for Dorset as a whole. Other areas in England have more aggressive tourism programmes and we shall rue it if we are left behind. Phaedrus
  • Score: 16

10:20am Fri 27 Jun 14

Get a grip says...

Dear Editor.

Can we see the Echo improving the content of the paper?

Nothing wrong with a good bit of digging around to expose a failing.

But you need to get your reporters out and about a bit more.

This is a loverly town but needs a bit of help at the moment.
Dear Editor. Can we see the Echo improving the content of the paper? Nothing wrong with a good bit of digging around to expose a failing. But you need to get your reporters out and about a bit more. This is a loverly town but needs a bit of help at the moment. Get a grip
  • Score: 9

10:34am Fri 27 Jun 14

sjc100 says...

why dont people stop moaning and do something about putting positive suggestions forward. spend money in the town and in time it will attract more shops and businesses.
why dont people stop moaning and do something about putting positive suggestions forward. spend money in the town and in time it will attract more shops and businesses. sjc100
  • Score: 9

10:46am Fri 27 Jun 14

Rocksalt says...

Councillor Rogers seems to be suggesting that young people can only be expected to be ambitious if jobs can be created for them in Weymouth. Whilst I hope more and better jobs can be attracted to the area, young people can't rely on that, nor use limited local opportunities as an excuse for not trying in the first place. Many may well have to leave. That's what happens all over the world.
Councillor Rogers seems to be suggesting that young people can only be expected to be ambitious if jobs can be created for them in Weymouth. Whilst I hope more and better jobs can be attracted to the area, young people can't rely on that, nor use limited local opportunities as an excuse for not trying in the first place. Many may well have to leave. That's what happens all over the world. Rocksalt
  • Score: 5

10:52am Fri 27 Jun 14

shy talk says...

The Mayor of Weymouth & Portland Cllr Wheller “also focused on the need to make changes in the wake of government cuts, moving away from a reliance on tourism.”
(Ref: Echo 29th May 2014).

This is at odds with the new proposals and tourism culture spokesperson Rachel Rogers.
The Mayor of Weymouth & Portland Cllr Wheller “also focused on the need to make changes in the wake of government cuts, moving away from a reliance on tourism.” (Ref: Echo 29th May 2014). This is at odds with the new proposals and tourism culture spokesperson Rachel Rogers. shy talk
  • Score: 5

11:12am Fri 27 Jun 14

whippetmax says...

Look after the locals first. We, as regular holidaymakers were apalled to be told by locals that the Brewers Quay development had been emptied of the thriving shops within before the Olympics , as the council had the place earmarked to turn into accomodation for the Olympic officials. Also , a town butcher had to take down an Olympic ring made out of sausages that he had the good enterprise to make, as it was not 'official' ! .
Look after the locals first. We, as regular holidaymakers were apalled to be told by locals that the Brewers Quay development had been emptied of the thriving shops within before the Olympics , as the council had the place earmarked to turn into accomodation for the Olympic officials. Also , a town butcher had to take down an Olympic ring made out of sausages that he had the good enterprise to make, as it was not 'official' ! . whippetmax
  • Score: 15

11:16am Fri 27 Jun 14

nomadengland says...

islandman wrote:
But why is the Pavilion still displaying a huge advert for LAST years pantomime ??????
I see the Pavilion has now changed this.
Surely one of the biggest problems here in Weymouth is no Tourist Information Centre!! We have been to many towns in Wales over the past few weeks and every one (even small towns) have a really good TIC. Why was ours ever removed from the prominent and central place on the seafront. I know the Pavilion has information now, but this is a long way out of town for people getting off of coaches, staying in hotels etc. and no way compensates for a proper TIC where details of B&B bookings, camp sites, cycle routes, walking routes, bus and train times, etc., can be found.
[quote][p][bold]islandman[/bold] wrote: But why is the Pavilion still displaying a huge advert for LAST years pantomime ??????[/p][/quote]I see the Pavilion has now changed this. Surely one of the biggest problems here in Weymouth is no Tourist Information Centre!! We have been to many towns in Wales over the past few weeks and every one (even small towns) have a really good TIC. Why was ours ever removed from the prominent and central place on the seafront. I know the Pavilion has information now, but this is a long way out of town for people getting off of coaches, staying in hotels etc. and no way compensates for a proper TIC where details of B&B bookings, camp sites, cycle routes, walking routes, bus and train times, etc., can be found. nomadengland
  • Score: 16

11:47am Fri 27 Jun 14

islandman says...

I stand corrected re the Pavilion Panto. I know it was there at the weekend. As for the old TIC on the Esplanade. It is my understanding it is now leased to Weymouth Bay Caravan Park and owners of statics there, can "drop in" the old TIC for free refreshments.

BUT, given the Weymouth Bay Caravan Park's income is derived from people who wish to enjoy Weymouth but stay at the park, surely Weymouth Bay must realise how important that building is to visitors and locals and either give it back, or allow the Tourism to use it via sponsoring it ..
I stand corrected re the Pavilion Panto. I know it was there at the weekend. As for the old TIC on the Esplanade. It is my understanding it is now leased to Weymouth Bay Caravan Park and owners of statics there, can "drop in" the old TIC for free refreshments. BUT, given the Weymouth Bay Caravan Park's income is derived from people who wish to enjoy Weymouth but stay at the park, surely Weymouth Bay must realise how important that building is to visitors and locals and either give it back, or allow the Tourism to use it via sponsoring it .. islandman
  • Score: 3

12:11pm Fri 27 Jun 14

Parkstreetshufle says...

I think the very point of the article is being missed from the get go.
Those in a situation to do something are still obsessed with creating a great holiday destination - as if its just a case of brushing off the dust after a period of mothballing. Its not going to spring out of the box and relive former glories. It need to reinvent itself. Get some green credentials and provide some alternatives, not just get polish the tu*d with another b-list 'celebrity' for the Pavillion.
Just the Pavillion itself makes me grind my teeth. Providing pier end entertainment is from 1920 for crying out loud. Its not going to save anything.
Weymouth needs to think in the decade and not one fifty years ago.
I think the very point of the article is being missed from the get go. Those in a situation to do something are still obsessed with creating a great holiday destination - as if its just a case of brushing off the dust after a period of mothballing. Its not going to spring out of the box and relive former glories. It need to reinvent itself. Get some green credentials and provide some alternatives, not just get polish the tu*d with another b-list 'celebrity' for the Pavillion. Just the Pavillion itself makes me grind my teeth. Providing pier end entertainment is from 1920 for crying out loud. Its not going to save anything. Weymouth needs to think in the decade and not one fifty years ago. Parkstreetshufle
  • Score: 8

12:22pm Fri 27 Jun 14

MrTomSmith says...

islandman wrote:
I stand corrected re the Pavilion Panto. I know it was there at the weekend. As for the old TIC on the Esplanade. It is my understanding it is now leased to Weymouth Bay Caravan Park and owners of statics there, can "drop in" the old TIC for free refreshments.

BUT, given the Weymouth Bay Caravan Park's income is derived from people who wish to enjoy Weymouth but stay at the park, surely Weymouth Bay must realise how important that building is to visitors and locals and either give it back, or allow the Tourism to use it via sponsoring it ..
It was there on Sunday that is 100% sure, have a photo here. On the side is the Old Pantomine Cinderella 2013, a massive billboard in purple. At the front are the new Summer Panto promotion posters. Good if they have changed them at last, as I said it's not cheap, but 6 months is a bit excessive.
[quote][p][bold]islandman[/bold] wrote: I stand corrected re the Pavilion Panto. I know it was there at the weekend. As for the old TIC on the Esplanade. It is my understanding it is now leased to Weymouth Bay Caravan Park and owners of statics there, can "drop in" the old TIC for free refreshments. BUT, given the Weymouth Bay Caravan Park's income is derived from people who wish to enjoy Weymouth but stay at the park, surely Weymouth Bay must realise how important that building is to visitors and locals and either give it back, or allow the Tourism to use it via sponsoring it ..[/p][/quote]It was there on Sunday that is 100% sure, have a photo here. On the side is the Old Pantomine Cinderella 2013, a massive billboard in purple. At the front are the new Summer Panto promotion posters. Good if they have changed them at last, as I said it's not cheap, but 6 months is a bit excessive. MrTomSmith
  • Score: 2

12:36pm Fri 27 Jun 14

Ageed / not agreed says...

Get a grip wrote:
Dear Editor.

Can we see the Echo improving the content of the paper?

Nothing wrong with a good bit of digging around to expose a failing.

But you need to get your reporters out and about a bit more.

This is a loverly town but needs a bit of help at the moment.
That would mean the reporters have to get out of the office and off the phone - good luck.
[quote][p][bold]Get a grip[/bold] wrote: Dear Editor. Can we see the Echo improving the content of the paper? Nothing wrong with a good bit of digging around to expose a failing. But you need to get your reporters out and about a bit more. This is a loverly town but needs a bit of help at the moment.[/p][/quote]That would mean the reporters have to get out of the office and off the phone - good luck. Ageed / not agreed
  • Score: 1

1:09pm Fri 27 Jun 14

Simon 1965 says...

nomadengland wrote:
islandman wrote: But why is the Pavilion still displaying a huge advert for LAST years pantomime ??????
I see the Pavilion has now changed this. Surely one of the biggest problems here in Weymouth is no Tourist Information Centre!! We have been to many towns in Wales over the past few weeks and every one (even small towns) have a really good TIC. Why was ours ever removed from the prominent and central place on the seafront. I know the Pavilion has information now, but this is a long way out of town for people getting off of coaches, staying in hotels etc. and no way compensates for a proper TIC where details of B&B bookings, camp sites, cycle routes, walking routes, bus and train times, etc., can be found.
Closure of TIC`s is now happening all over the UK- there are none in the Isle of Wight anymore.and here locally in Barry Island, the TIC has closed as well.

Simon N.
[quote][p][bold]nomadengland[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]islandman[/bold] wrote: But why is the Pavilion still displaying a huge advert for LAST years pantomime ??????[/p][/quote]I see the Pavilion has now changed this. Surely one of the biggest problems here in Weymouth is no Tourist Information Centre!! We have been to many towns in Wales over the past few weeks and every one (even small towns) have a really good TIC. Why was ours ever removed from the prominent and central place on the seafront. I know the Pavilion has information now, but this is a long way out of town for people getting off of coaches, staying in hotels etc. and no way compensates for a proper TIC where details of B&B bookings, camp sites, cycle routes, walking routes, bus and train times, etc., can be found.[/p][/quote]Closure of TIC`s is now happening all over the UK- there are none in the Isle of Wight anymore.and here locally in Barry Island, the TIC has closed as well. Simon N. Simon 1965
  • Score: 2

1:10pm Fri 27 Jun 14

Duckorange says...

Get a grip wrote:
Can the Echo stop taking photographs of angry looking people with thier arms crossed.

How about the reporters getting out and about and looking for some good news stories.

Yes they have to report the bad but all I am asking is that they have a balance



They might find that sales go.

Worth a go

I wonder if the decline in reporting is linked to thier move to Granby?
Don't ever stop doing angry people.
[quote][p][bold]Get a grip[/bold] wrote: Can the Echo stop taking photographs of angry looking people with thier arms crossed. How about the reporters getting out and about and looking for some good news stories. Yes they have to report the bad but all I am asking is that they have a balance They might find that sales go. Worth a go I wonder if the decline in reporting is linked to thier move to Granby?[/p][/quote]Don't ever stop doing angry people. Duckorange
  • Score: 0

1:27pm Fri 27 Jun 14

Douglas Mc says...

Some tourist destinations facing the problems of low and seasonal pay and declining stores have taken a different approach - trying to attract businesses that will provide higher paid jobs for their educated youth. As it is our working population percentage is falling, seemingly our children are leaving the area to find decent positions and we are left with mostly low paid jobs. Not the sort of economy to attract up market shops or keep our youngsters? Will promoting tourism improve our prospects?. Will a low pay bucket and spade economy attract decent jobs that retains spend in the area?
Some tourist destinations facing the problems of low and seasonal pay and declining stores have taken a different approach - trying to attract businesses that will provide higher paid jobs for their educated youth. As it is our working population percentage is falling, seemingly our children are leaving the area to find decent positions and we are left with mostly low paid jobs. Not the sort of economy to attract up market shops or keep our youngsters? Will promoting tourism improve our prospects?. Will a low pay bucket and spade economy attract decent jobs that retains spend in the area? Douglas Mc
  • Score: 0

2:03pm Fri 27 Jun 14

MrTomSmith says...

Simon 1965 wrote:
nomadengland wrote:
islandman wrote: But why is the Pavilion still displaying a huge advert for LAST years pantomime ??????
I see the Pavilion has now changed this. Surely one of the biggest problems here in Weymouth is no Tourist Information Centre!! We have been to many towns in Wales over the past few weeks and every one (even small towns) have a really good TIC. Why was ours ever removed from the prominent and central place on the seafront. I know the Pavilion has information now, but this is a long way out of town for people getting off of coaches, staying in hotels etc. and no way compensates for a proper TIC where details of B&B bookings, camp sites, cycle routes, walking routes, bus and train times, etc., can be found.
Closure of TIC`s is now happening all over the UK- there are none in the Isle of Wight anymore.and here locally in Barry Island, the TIC has closed as well.

Simon N.
One of the WORST decisions WPBC have ever made and you are still defending it..............you are incredible.
[quote][p][bold]Simon 1965[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nomadengland[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]islandman[/bold] wrote: But why is the Pavilion still displaying a huge advert for LAST years pantomime ??????[/p][/quote]I see the Pavilion has now changed this. Surely one of the biggest problems here in Weymouth is no Tourist Information Centre!! We have been to many towns in Wales over the past few weeks and every one (even small towns) have a really good TIC. Why was ours ever removed from the prominent and central place on the seafront. I know the Pavilion has information now, but this is a long way out of town for people getting off of coaches, staying in hotels etc. and no way compensates for a proper TIC where details of B&B bookings, camp sites, cycle routes, walking routes, bus and train times, etc., can be found.[/p][/quote]Closure of TIC`s is now happening all over the UK- there are none in the Isle of Wight anymore.and here locally in Barry Island, the TIC has closed as well. Simon N.[/p][/quote]One of the WORST decisions WPBC have ever made and you are still defending it..............you are incredible. MrTomSmith
  • Score: 2

2:10pm Fri 27 Jun 14

Rocksalt says...

Douglas Mc wrote:
Some tourist destinations facing the problems of low and seasonal pay and declining stores have taken a different approach - trying to attract businesses that will provide higher paid jobs for their educated youth. As it is our working population percentage is falling, seemingly our children are leaving the area to find decent positions and we are left with mostly low paid jobs. Not the sort of economy to attract up market shops or keep our youngsters? Will promoting tourism improve our prospects?. Will a low pay bucket and spade economy attract decent jobs that retains spend in the area?
Out of curiosity, do you know of any similar towns that have successfully attracted businesses of the kind you have in mind in any number. Yes, it would be more desirable than an over-reliance on seasonal jobs, but it is easier said than done.
[quote][p][bold]Douglas Mc[/bold] wrote: Some tourist destinations facing the problems of low and seasonal pay and declining stores have taken a different approach - trying to attract businesses that will provide higher paid jobs for their educated youth. As it is our working population percentage is falling, seemingly our children are leaving the area to find decent positions and we are left with mostly low paid jobs. Not the sort of economy to attract up market shops or keep our youngsters? Will promoting tourism improve our prospects?. Will a low pay bucket and spade economy attract decent jobs that retains spend in the area?[/p][/quote]Out of curiosity, do you know of any similar towns that have successfully attracted businesses of the kind you have in mind in any number. Yes, it would be more desirable than an over-reliance on seasonal jobs, but it is easier said than done. Rocksalt
  • Score: 0

2:14pm Fri 27 Jun 14

monkeydog says...

MrTomSmith wrote:
Simon 1965 wrote:
nomadengland wrote:
islandman wrote: But why is the Pavilion still displaying a huge advert for LAST years pantomime ??????
I see the Pavilion has now changed this. Surely one of the biggest problems here in Weymouth is no Tourist Information Centre!! We have been to many towns in Wales over the past few weeks and every one (even small towns) have a really good TIC. Why was ours ever removed from the prominent and central place on the seafront. I know the Pavilion has information now, but this is a long way out of town for people getting off of coaches, staying in hotels etc. and no way compensates for a proper TIC where details of B&B bookings, camp sites, cycle routes, walking routes, bus and train times, etc., can be found.
Closure of TIC`s is now happening all over the UK- there are none in the Isle of Wight anymore.and here locally in Barry Island, the TIC has closed as well.

Simon N.
One of the WORST decisions WPBC have ever made and you are still defending it..............you are incredible.
You need to calm down. He was simply stating a fact. I dare say he thinks it's a daft decision.
[quote][p][bold]MrTomSmith[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Simon 1965[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nomadengland[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]islandman[/bold] wrote: But why is the Pavilion still displaying a huge advert for LAST years pantomime ??????[/p][/quote]I see the Pavilion has now changed this. Surely one of the biggest problems here in Weymouth is no Tourist Information Centre!! We have been to many towns in Wales over the past few weeks and every one (even small towns) have a really good TIC. Why was ours ever removed from the prominent and central place on the seafront. I know the Pavilion has information now, but this is a long way out of town for people getting off of coaches, staying in hotels etc. and no way compensates for a proper TIC where details of B&B bookings, camp sites, cycle routes, walking routes, bus and train times, etc., can be found.[/p][/quote]Closure of TIC`s is now happening all over the UK- there are none in the Isle of Wight anymore.and here locally in Barry Island, the TIC has closed as well. Simon N.[/p][/quote]One of the WORST decisions WPBC have ever made and you are still defending it..............you are incredible.[/p][/quote]You need to calm down. He was simply stating a fact. I dare say he thinks it's a daft decision. monkeydog
  • Score: 6

2:25pm Fri 27 Jun 14

codlips says...

Douglas Mc wrote:
Some tourist destinations facing the problems of low and seasonal pay and declining stores have taken a different approach - trying to attract businesses that will provide higher paid jobs for their educated youth. As it is our working population percentage is falling, seemingly our children are leaving the area to find decent positions and we are left with mostly low paid jobs. Not the sort of economy to attract up market shops or keep our youngsters? Will promoting tourism improve our prospects?. Will a low pay bucket and spade economy attract decent jobs that retains spend in the area?
Another major reason the youngsters are leaving the area are the ridiculously high house prices in our borough, we all know the cause of that problem and can do nowt about it.
[quote][p][bold]Douglas Mc[/bold] wrote: Some tourist destinations facing the problems of low and seasonal pay and declining stores have taken a different approach - trying to attract businesses that will provide higher paid jobs for their educated youth. As it is our working population percentage is falling, seemingly our children are leaving the area to find decent positions and we are left with mostly low paid jobs. Not the sort of economy to attract up market shops or keep our youngsters? Will promoting tourism improve our prospects?. Will a low pay bucket and spade economy attract decent jobs that retains spend in the area?[/p][/quote]Another major reason the youngsters are leaving the area are the ridiculously high house prices in our borough, we all know the cause of that problem and can do nowt about it. codlips
  • Score: 4

2:38pm Fri 27 Jun 14

oldbrock says...

nomadengland wrote:
islandman wrote:
But why is the Pavilion still displaying a huge advert for LAST years pantomime ??????
I see the Pavilion has now changed this.
Surely one of the biggest problems here in Weymouth is no Tourist Information Centre!! We have been to many towns in Wales over the past few weeks and every one (even small towns) have a really good TIC. Why was ours ever removed from the prominent and central place on the seafront. I know the Pavilion has information now, but this is a long way out of town for people getting off of coaches, staying in hotels etc. and no way compensates for a proper TIC where details of B&B bookings, camp sites, cycle routes, walking routes, bus and train times, etc., can be found.
spot on, we are fairly regular visitors and can remember the convenience of the old TIC, mind you we can get stuff at DORCHESTER TIC if we need to but NOT everybody wants to go there for info, it really needs to be where everybody staying can access it easily, surely, the point of having it on the seafront originally was the proximity to the bulk of the seafront hotels? councillors jiggery-pokery has now ended all that, another example of the councillor "servant of the people" becoming the "masters"
[quote][p][bold]nomadengland[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]islandman[/bold] wrote: But why is the Pavilion still displaying a huge advert for LAST years pantomime ??????[/p][/quote]I see the Pavilion has now changed this. Surely one of the biggest problems here in Weymouth is no Tourist Information Centre!! We have been to many towns in Wales over the past few weeks and every one (even small towns) have a really good TIC. Why was ours ever removed from the prominent and central place on the seafront. I know the Pavilion has information now, but this is a long way out of town for people getting off of coaches, staying in hotels etc. and no way compensates for a proper TIC where details of B&B bookings, camp sites, cycle routes, walking routes, bus and train times, etc., can be found.[/p][/quote]spot on, we are fairly regular visitors and can remember the convenience of the old TIC, mind you we can get stuff at DORCHESTER TIC if we need to but NOT everybody wants to go there for info, it really needs to be where everybody staying can access it easily, surely, the point of having it on the seafront originally was the proximity to the bulk of the seafront hotels? councillors jiggery-pokery has now ended all that, another example of the councillor "servant of the people" becoming the "masters" oldbrock
  • Score: 6

2:47pm Fri 27 Jun 14

MrTomSmith says...

monkeydog wrote:
MrTomSmith wrote:
Simon 1965 wrote:
nomadengland wrote:
islandman wrote: But why is the Pavilion still displaying a huge advert for LAST years pantomime ??????
I see the Pavilion has now changed this. Surely one of the biggest problems here in Weymouth is no Tourist Information Centre!! We have been to many towns in Wales over the past few weeks and every one (even small towns) have a really good TIC. Why was ours ever removed from the prominent and central place on the seafront. I know the Pavilion has information now, but this is a long way out of town for people getting off of coaches, staying in hotels etc. and no way compensates for a proper TIC where details of B&B bookings, camp sites, cycle routes, walking routes, bus and train times, etc., can be found.
Closure of TIC`s is now happening all over the UK- there are none in the Isle of Wight anymore.and here locally in Barry Island, the TIC has closed as well.

Simon N.
One of the WORST decisions WPBC have ever made and you are still defending it..............you are incredible.
You need to calm down. He was simply stating a fact. I dare say he thinks it's a daft decision.
Codlips that was amazing, you have worked out I need to be calmed down, when I am very laid back believe me, and not only that defended Simon N which is fair enough, but, you have done it by making up what you THINK are his thoughts! Thats even more incredible. Well done.

Be very interested to see if Simon N comes back and say's it was a daft decision. very interesting indeed, glad you raised the idea Codlips.
[quote][p][bold]monkeydog[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MrTomSmith[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Simon 1965[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nomadengland[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]islandman[/bold] wrote: But why is the Pavilion still displaying a huge advert for LAST years pantomime ??????[/p][/quote]I see the Pavilion has now changed this. Surely one of the biggest problems here in Weymouth is no Tourist Information Centre!! We have been to many towns in Wales over the past few weeks and every one (even small towns) have a really good TIC. Why was ours ever removed from the prominent and central place on the seafront. I know the Pavilion has information now, but this is a long way out of town for people getting off of coaches, staying in hotels etc. and no way compensates for a proper TIC where details of B&B bookings, camp sites, cycle routes, walking routes, bus and train times, etc., can be found.[/p][/quote]Closure of TIC`s is now happening all over the UK- there are none in the Isle of Wight anymore.and here locally in Barry Island, the TIC has closed as well. Simon N.[/p][/quote]One of the WORST decisions WPBC have ever made and you are still defending it..............you are incredible.[/p][/quote]You need to calm down. He was simply stating a fact. I dare say he thinks it's a daft decision.[/p][/quote]Codlips that was amazing, you have worked out I need to be calmed down, when I am very laid back believe me, and not only that defended Simon N which is fair enough, but, you have done it by making up what you THINK are his thoughts! Thats even more incredible. Well done. Be very interested to see if Simon N comes back and say's it was a daft decision. very interesting indeed, glad you raised the idea Codlips. MrTomSmith
  • Score: -9

3:08pm Fri 27 Jun 14

Get a grip says...

I see that the council is looking again at the old TIC/beach office building.

They are looking for a development partner.

I think this will be the third time in the last 5 years that a plan has been drawn up only not to be implemented.
I see that the council is looking again at the old TIC/beach office building. They are looking for a development partner. I think this will be the third time in the last 5 years that a plan has been drawn up only not to be implemented. Get a grip
  • Score: 1

4:19pm Fri 27 Jun 14

harryhal says...

As someone who actually lives in Weymouth I am well aware of our towns short coming, but I still think our beach / harbour area is still a good place especially on a nice sunny day. It is what it is a "bucket and spade" holiday resort and unless there is huge investment in hotels and attractions, it wil remain as that. Which a lot of people still like.
On a recent family trip to Torquay, nice and clean with good hotels, but it's beach is not a patch on ours, I did notice along the front they had modern LED fairy lights strung out, which looked brilliant at night, mainly blue and white coloured, far better than our pathetic laser lights. Perhaps we can start there. Bring back modern LED fairy lights. !!!
As someone who actually lives in Weymouth I am well aware of our towns short coming, but I still think our beach / harbour area is still a good place especially on a nice sunny day. It is what it is a "bucket and spade" holiday resort and unless there is huge investment in hotels and attractions, it wil remain as that. Which a lot of people still like. On a recent family trip to Torquay, nice and clean with good hotels, but it's beach is not a patch on ours, I did notice along the front they had modern LED fairy lights strung out, which looked brilliant at night, mainly blue and white coloured, far better than our pathetic laser lights. Perhaps we can start there. Bring back modern LED fairy lights. !!! harryhal
  • Score: 8

4:23pm Fri 27 Jun 14

Techie says...

whippetmax wrote:
Look after the locals first. We, as regular holidaymakers were apalled to be told by locals that the Brewers Quay development had been emptied of the thriving shops within before the Olympics , as the council had the place earmarked to turn into accomodation for the Olympic officials. Also , a town butcher had to take down an Olympic ring made out of sausages that he had the good enterprise to make, as it was not 'official' ! .
Neither of those things have anything remotely to do with the Council, by the way. The blame for what happened at Brewers Quay falls squarely with the freeholder who after giving his existing tenants notice was unable to make his scheme work and consequently allowed the building to sit empty and deteriorate, while the sausage man was told to desist with his Olympic ring logo shenanigans by LOCOG.
[quote][p][bold]whippetmax[/bold] wrote: Look after the locals first. We, as regular holidaymakers were apalled to be told by locals that the Brewers Quay development had been emptied of the thriving shops within before the Olympics , as the council had the place earmarked to turn into accomodation for the Olympic officials. Also , a town butcher had to take down an Olympic ring made out of sausages that he had the good enterprise to make, as it was not 'official' ! .[/p][/quote]Neither of those things have anything remotely to do with the Council, by the way. The blame for what happened at Brewers Quay falls squarely with the freeholder who after giving his existing tenants notice was unable to make his scheme work and consequently allowed the building to sit empty and deteriorate, while the sausage man was told to desist with his Olympic ring logo shenanigans by LOCOG. Techie
  • Score: 8

4:52pm Fri 27 Jun 14

carlinste says...

I live in wyke Regis and we are very lucky to have two buses in the morning and two in the afternoon this is the 207 ( I am being ironic) ! We did have one, yes one bus on a Saturday, which has now been taken off. Never mind the holiday makers, we have to put up with the lack of transport all year round.
I live in wyke Regis and we are very lucky to have two buses in the morning and two in the afternoon this is the 207 ( I am being ironic) ! We did have one, yes one bus on a Saturday, which has now been taken off. Never mind the holiday makers, we have to put up with the lack of transport all year round. carlinste
  • Score: 2

4:58pm Fri 27 Jun 14

Crimbo says...

When are the Concentration Camps being constructed for all the Weymouth thugs, drunks, arsonists, drug addicts, shop lifters, burglars, etc who turn the town into the sh*t hole that it becomes every evening? Until they do a bit of "street" cleaning the town will never improve!
When are the Concentration Camps being constructed for all the Weymouth thugs, drunks, arsonists, drug addicts, shop lifters, burglars, etc who turn the town into the sh*t hole that it becomes every evening? Until they do a bit of "street" cleaning the town will never improve! Crimbo
  • Score: 9

5:15pm Fri 27 Jun 14

codlips says...

MrTomSmith wrote:
monkeydog wrote:
MrTomSmith wrote:
Simon 1965 wrote:
nomadengland wrote:
islandman wrote: But why is the Pavilion still displaying a huge advert for LAST years pantomime ??????
I see the Pavilion has now changed this. Surely one of the biggest problems here in Weymouth is no Tourist Information Centre!! We have been to many towns in Wales over the past few weeks and every one (even small towns) have a really good TIC. Why was ours ever removed from the prominent and central place on the seafront. I know the Pavilion has information now, but this is a long way out of town for people getting off of coaches, staying in hotels etc. and no way compensates for a proper TIC where details of B&B bookings, camp sites, cycle routes, walking routes, bus and train times, etc., can be found.
Closure of TIC`s is now happening all over the UK- there are none in the Isle of Wight anymore.and here locally in Barry Island, the TIC has closed as well.

Simon N.
One of the WORST decisions WPBC have ever made and you are still defending it..............you are incredible.
You need to calm down. He was simply stating a fact. I dare say he thinks it's a daft decision.
Codlips that was amazing, you have worked out I need to be calmed down, when I am very laid back believe me, and not only that defended Simon N which is fair enough, but, you have done it by making up what you THINK are his thoughts! Thats even more incredible. Well done.

Be very interested to see if Simon N comes back and say's it was a daft decision. very interesting indeed, glad you raised the idea Codlips.
I think your quoting the wrong person Tom, I said nothing about you calming down.
[quote][p][bold]MrTomSmith[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]monkeydog[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MrTomSmith[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Simon 1965[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nomadengland[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]islandman[/bold] wrote: But why is the Pavilion still displaying a huge advert for LAST years pantomime ??????[/p][/quote]I see the Pavilion has now changed this. Surely one of the biggest problems here in Weymouth is no Tourist Information Centre!! We have been to many towns in Wales over the past few weeks and every one (even small towns) have a really good TIC. Why was ours ever removed from the prominent and central place on the seafront. I know the Pavilion has information now, but this is a long way out of town for people getting off of coaches, staying in hotels etc. and no way compensates for a proper TIC where details of B&B bookings, camp sites, cycle routes, walking routes, bus and train times, etc., can be found.[/p][/quote]Closure of TIC`s is now happening all over the UK- there are none in the Isle of Wight anymore.and here locally in Barry Island, the TIC has closed as well. Simon N.[/p][/quote]One of the WORST decisions WPBC have ever made and you are still defending it..............you are incredible.[/p][/quote]You need to calm down. He was simply stating a fact. I dare say he thinks it's a daft decision.[/p][/quote]Codlips that was amazing, you have worked out I need to be calmed down, when I am very laid back believe me, and not only that defended Simon N which is fair enough, but, you have done it by making up what you THINK are his thoughts! Thats even more incredible. Well done. Be very interested to see if Simon N comes back and say's it was a daft decision. very interesting indeed, glad you raised the idea Codlips.[/p][/quote]I think your quoting the wrong person Tom, I said nothing about you calming down. codlips
  • Score: 1

5:50pm Fri 27 Jun 14

siriem says...

Whilst I will admit that no-one has really dwelt on the issue in this particular thread - why are there so many people who think that fairy lights are the answer to all Weymouth's problems?
Whilst I will admit that no-one has really dwelt on the issue in this particular thread - why are there so many people who think that fairy lights are the answer to all Weymouth's problems? siriem
  • Score: 9

5:51pm Fri 27 Jun 14

MrTomSmith says...

Excuse me Codlips.........it was Monkey Dog....... something weird going on there, because how I would think it was you. Anyway, I apologise to you Codlps, it's Monkey Dog........lol great names.
Excuse me Codlips.........it was Monkey Dog....... something weird going on there, because how I would think it was you. Anyway, I apologise to you Codlps, it's Monkey Dog........lol great names. MrTomSmith
  • Score: -2

5:56pm Fri 27 Jun 14

MrTomSmith says...

siriem wrote:
Whilst I will admit that no-one has really dwelt on the issue in this particular thread - why are there so many people who think that fairy lights are the answer to all Weymouth's problems?
They have gone on and on about it so much, I am beginning to think it's true. They are the answer.

But you point is important, because there is no easy answer, I continue to believe we aren't doing that bad in the grand scheme of things, but do have problems, some easier than others to sort out. But spot on Fairy Lights will certainly not make any difference whatsoever. They might keep quite a lot of people happy, but that's about it.
[quote][p][bold]siriem[/bold] wrote: Whilst I will admit that no-one has really dwelt on the issue in this particular thread - why are there so many people who think that fairy lights are the answer to all Weymouth's problems?[/p][/quote]They have gone on and on about it so much, I am beginning to think it's true. They are the answer. But you point is important, because there is no easy answer, I continue to believe we aren't doing that bad in the grand scheme of things, but do have problems, some easier than others to sort out. But spot on Fairy Lights will certainly not make any difference whatsoever. They might keep quite a lot of people happy, but that's about it. MrTomSmith
  • Score: -1

6:53pm Fri 27 Jun 14

1Kimberlin says...

Well lets look at this firstly find a developer who wants the poison chalice that is Weymouth. Then give them permission to bulldoze everything from the Inner harbour from Westham bridge to the Sea Front and from The King Staue to the Harbourside. The you build a huge shopping centre that everyone in Dorset and nearby surrounding Counties will want to come and use My Husband & I recently Holidayed in North Yorkshire and we visited The Metro Centre in Gateshead an amzaing place we spent eight hours there and never saw half of it. Last weekend was spent in the Queensgate Centre in Peterborough , not as big but an absolute money maker like the Metro. Wake Up & Smell the Coffee Weymouth it's cheaper to holiday abroad than Weymouth and you get the sunshine
Well lets look at this firstly find a developer who wants the poison chalice that is Weymouth. Then give them permission to bulldoze everything from the Inner harbour from Westham bridge to the Sea Front and from The King Staue to the Harbourside. The you build a huge shopping centre that everyone in Dorset and nearby surrounding Counties will want to come and use My Husband & I recently Holidayed in North Yorkshire and we visited The Metro Centre in Gateshead an amzaing place we spent eight hours there and never saw half of it. Last weekend was spent in the Queensgate Centre in Peterborough , not as big but an absolute money maker like the Metro. Wake Up & Smell the Coffee Weymouth it's cheaper to holiday abroad than Weymouth and you get the sunshine 1Kimberlin
  • Score: -8

7:14pm Fri 27 Jun 14

ksmain says...

February1948 wrote:
Weymouth can be transformed. I have said it before in another post, during the Olympics the town was a different world. Clean, tidy, friendly and welcoming and a joy to visit. Target the "right" sort of tourist and it can become so again. Let's not get into a rant about the "right" sort of person please! Weymouth has everything - a gorgeous bay and surrounded by wonderful countryside. Tourism brings money in to the town which the Council should (!) then spend for the benefit of its tax payers. Start to attract good quality retailers, after all there are enough empty shops in good positions, by cutting business rates. Do something about the parking charges; offer reasonable park and ride fares and stop fleecing the public (local and visitor). More PCSOs walking about the town to keep an eye on the undesirables, etc. etc.
I'm afraid comparing the olympics as some kind of role model of how the town should be is a bit wide of the mark IMO. The town only appeared to be spruced up in areas where it could be seen on the telly, the well-touted fun area near the Pavillion went bust after 5 days (I reckon as someone got the visitor numbers wrong and I reckon they probably over-charged) and all the lovely shops in Brewers Quay there before the Olympics have disappeared. As far as I can see the only businesses that did well out of it were the large, already well-established. I personally can see little evidence of any lasting Olympic legacy - and the sport we hosted was already well-established in the local area anyway.
[quote][p][bold]February1948[/bold] wrote: Weymouth can be transformed. I have said it before in another post, during the Olympics the town was a different world. Clean, tidy, friendly and welcoming and a joy to visit. Target the "right" sort of tourist and it can become so again. Let's not get into a rant about the "right" sort of person please! Weymouth has everything - a gorgeous bay and surrounded by wonderful countryside. Tourism brings money in to the town which the Council should (!) then spend for the benefit of its tax payers. Start to attract good quality retailers, after all there are enough empty shops in good positions, by cutting business rates. Do something about the parking charges; offer reasonable park and ride fares and stop fleecing the public (local and visitor). More PCSOs walking about the town to keep an eye on the undesirables, etc. etc.[/p][/quote]I'm afraid comparing the olympics as some kind of role model of how the town should be is a bit wide of the mark IMO. The town only appeared to be spruced up in areas where it could be seen on the telly, the well-touted fun area near the Pavillion went bust after 5 days (I reckon as someone got the visitor numbers wrong and I reckon they probably over-charged) and all the lovely shops in Brewers Quay there before the Olympics have disappeared. As far as I can see the only businesses that did well out of it were the large, already well-established. I personally can see little evidence of any lasting Olympic legacy - and the sport we hosted was already well-established in the local area anyway. ksmain
  • Score: 1

7:41pm Fri 27 Jun 14

Simon Nicholas says...

codlips wrote:
MrTomSmith wrote:
monkeydog wrote:
MrTomSmith wrote:
Simon 1965 wrote:
nomadengland wrote:
islandman wrote: But why is the Pavilion still displaying a huge advert for LAST years pantomime ??????
I see the Pavilion has now changed this. Surely one of the biggest problems here in Weymouth is no Tourist Information Centre!! We have been to many towns in Wales over the past few weeks and every one (even small towns) have a really good TIC. Why was ours ever removed from the prominent and central place on the seafront. I know the Pavilion has information now, but this is a long way out of town for people getting off of coaches, staying in hotels etc. and no way compensates for a proper TIC where details of B&B bookings, camp sites, cycle routes, walking routes, bus and train times, etc., can be found.
Closure of TIC`s is now happening all over the UK- there are none in the Isle of Wight anymore.and here locally in Barry Island, the TIC has closed as well.

Simon N.
One of the WORST decisions WPBC have ever made and you are still defending it..............you are incredible.
You need to calm down. He was simply stating a fact. I dare say he thinks it's a daft decision.
Codlips that was amazing, you have worked out I need to be calmed down, when I am very laid back believe me, and not only that defended Simon N which is fair enough, but, you have done it by making up what you THINK are his thoughts! Thats even more incredible. Well done.

Be very interested to see if Simon N comes back and say's it was a daft decision. very interesting indeed, glad you raised the idea Codlips.
I think your quoting the wrong person Tom, I said nothing about you calming down.
This is fun, its not often I cause so much aggrevation on a web-site!

For the record..............
...
Yes, I was merely stating a fact about TICs - very few local authorities have any spare cash, and closing these things is a quck financial win at the end of the day - for what its worth I think they will be very scarce everywhere in years to come.

Do I think it was a daft decsion to close the Weymouth one? thats a hard one to answer as I would prefer it to still be there - I always enjoy going into TICs, and the one by the Kings Statue was nice, although a bit cramped at times - perfect location as well.

However , with my realists hat on, what exactly do they do there that is relevant in the year 2014 - people book accommodation more and more on line, you can get coach tickets at the Post Office (although even here, NX have been quoted in saying recently that growth in their internet bookings continue to increase at a fantastic rate), and you can get tourist leaflets and bus timetables at various places in the town.

What they are however are "comfort blankets" that people traditionally expect to see in a tourist town - somewhere to go for advice on anything and everything, and I for one are saddened to see them being wiped out, although fully understanding the reasons why.

Maybe Condor can be persuaded to include a TIC as part of their proposed new passenger terminal near Berth 1!

Cheers
Simon N.
[quote][p][bold]codlips[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MrTomSmith[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]monkeydog[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MrTomSmith[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Simon 1965[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nomadengland[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]islandman[/bold] wrote: But why is the Pavilion still displaying a huge advert for LAST years pantomime ??????[/p][/quote]I see the Pavilion has now changed this. Surely one of the biggest problems here in Weymouth is no Tourist Information Centre!! We have been to many towns in Wales over the past few weeks and every one (even small towns) have a really good TIC. Why was ours ever removed from the prominent and central place on the seafront. I know the Pavilion has information now, but this is a long way out of town for people getting off of coaches, staying in hotels etc. and no way compensates for a proper TIC where details of B&B bookings, camp sites, cycle routes, walking routes, bus and train times, etc., can be found.[/p][/quote]Closure of TIC`s is now happening all over the UK- there are none in the Isle of Wight anymore.and here locally in Barry Island, the TIC has closed as well. Simon N.[/p][/quote]One of the WORST decisions WPBC have ever made and you are still defending it..............you are incredible.[/p][/quote]You need to calm down. He was simply stating a fact. I dare say he thinks it's a daft decision.[/p][/quote]Codlips that was amazing, you have worked out I need to be calmed down, when I am very laid back believe me, and not only that defended Simon N which is fair enough, but, you have done it by making up what you THINK are his thoughts! Thats even more incredible. Well done. Be very interested to see if Simon N comes back and say's it was a daft decision. very interesting indeed, glad you raised the idea Codlips.[/p][/quote]I think your quoting the wrong person Tom, I said nothing about you calming down.[/p][/quote]This is fun, its not often I cause so much aggrevation on a web-site! For the record.............. ... Yes, I was merely stating a fact about TICs - very few local authorities have any spare cash, and closing these things is a quck financial win at the end of the day - for what its worth I think they will be very scarce everywhere in years to come. Do I think it was a daft decsion to close the Weymouth one? thats a hard one to answer as I would prefer it to still be there - I always enjoy going into TICs, and the one by the Kings Statue was nice, although a bit cramped at times - perfect location as well. However , with my realists hat on, what exactly do they do there that is relevant in the year 2014 - people book accommodation more and more on line, you can get coach tickets at the Post Office (although even here, NX have been quoted in saying recently that growth in their internet bookings continue to increase at a fantastic rate), and you can get tourist leaflets and bus timetables at various places in the town. What they are however are "comfort blankets" that people traditionally expect to see in a tourist town - somewhere to go for advice on anything and everything, and I for one are saddened to see them being wiped out, although fully understanding the reasons why. Maybe Condor can be persuaded to include a TIC as part of their proposed new passenger terminal near Berth 1! Cheers Simon N. Simon Nicholas
  • Score: 5

7:51pm Fri 27 Jun 14

ksmain says...

Simon Nicholas wrote:
codlips wrote:
MrTomSmith wrote:
monkeydog wrote:
MrTomSmith wrote:
Simon 1965 wrote:
nomadengland wrote:
islandman wrote: But why is the Pavilion still displaying a huge advert for LAST years pantomime ??????
I see the Pavilion has now changed this. Surely one of the biggest problems here in Weymouth is no Tourist Information Centre!! We have been to many towns in Wales over the past few weeks and every one (even small towns) have a really good TIC. Why was ours ever removed from the prominent and central place on the seafront. I know the Pavilion has information now, but this is a long way out of town for people getting off of coaches, staying in hotels etc. and no way compensates for a proper TIC where details of B&B bookings, camp sites, cycle routes, walking routes, bus and train times, etc., can be found.
Closure of TIC`s is now happening all over the UK- there are none in the Isle of Wight anymore.and here locally in Barry Island, the TIC has closed as well.

Simon N.
One of the WORST decisions WPBC have ever made and you are still defending it..............you are incredible.
You need to calm down. He was simply stating a fact. I dare say he thinks it's a daft decision.
Codlips that was amazing, you have worked out I need to be calmed down, when I am very laid back believe me, and not only that defended Simon N which is fair enough, but, you have done it by making up what you THINK are his thoughts! Thats even more incredible. Well done.

Be very interested to see if Simon N comes back and say's it was a daft decision. very interesting indeed, glad you raised the idea Codlips.
I think your quoting the wrong person Tom, I said nothing about you calming down.
This is fun, its not often I cause so much aggrevation on a web-site!

For the record..............

...
Yes, I was merely stating a fact about TICs - very few local authorities have any spare cash, and closing these things is a quck financial win at the end of the day - for what its worth I think they will be very scarce everywhere in years to come.

Do I think it was a daft decsion to close the Weymouth one? thats a hard one to answer as I would prefer it to still be there - I always enjoy going into TICs, and the one by the Kings Statue was nice, although a bit cramped at times - perfect location as well.

However , with my realists hat on, what exactly do they do there that is relevant in the year 2014 - people book accommodation more and more on line, you can get coach tickets at the Post Office (although even here, NX have been quoted in saying recently that growth in their internet bookings continue to increase at a fantastic rate), and you can get tourist leaflets and bus timetables at various places in the town.

What they are however are "comfort blankets" that people traditionally expect to see in a tourist town - somewhere to go for advice on anything and everything, and I for one are saddened to see them being wiped out, although fully understanding the reasons why.

Maybe Condor can be persuaded to include a TIC as part of their proposed new passenger terminal near Berth 1!

Cheers
Simon N.
Perhaps you need the TIC to tell you where the Post Office is in Weymouth so they can book their coach tickets? I would certainly miss it easily in it's current location. You are also presuming everyone uses the Internet - not everyone does (and that includes the young).

I do think closing the TIC in Weymouth was a short-sighted move by the Council - not only was it in a good visible location, but I believe you should use every weapon in your arsenal to attract holidaymakers to/back to the resort.
[quote][p][bold]Simon Nicholas[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]codlips[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MrTomSmith[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]monkeydog[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MrTomSmith[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Simon 1965[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nomadengland[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]islandman[/bold] wrote: But why is the Pavilion still displaying a huge advert for LAST years pantomime ??????[/p][/quote]I see the Pavilion has now changed this. Surely one of the biggest problems here in Weymouth is no Tourist Information Centre!! We have been to many towns in Wales over the past few weeks and every one (even small towns) have a really good TIC. Why was ours ever removed from the prominent and central place on the seafront. I know the Pavilion has information now, but this is a long way out of town for people getting off of coaches, staying in hotels etc. and no way compensates for a proper TIC where details of B&B bookings, camp sites, cycle routes, walking routes, bus and train times, etc., can be found.[/p][/quote]Closure of TIC`s is now happening all over the UK- there are none in the Isle of Wight anymore.and here locally in Barry Island, the TIC has closed as well. Simon N.[/p][/quote]One of the WORST decisions WPBC have ever made and you are still defending it..............you are incredible.[/p][/quote]You need to calm down. He was simply stating a fact. I dare say he thinks it's a daft decision.[/p][/quote]Codlips that was amazing, you have worked out I need to be calmed down, when I am very laid back believe me, and not only that defended Simon N which is fair enough, but, you have done it by making up what you THINK are his thoughts! Thats even more incredible. Well done. Be very interested to see if Simon N comes back and say's it was a daft decision. very interesting indeed, glad you raised the idea Codlips.[/p][/quote]I think your quoting the wrong person Tom, I said nothing about you calming down.[/p][/quote]This is fun, its not often I cause so much aggrevation on a web-site! For the record.............. ... Yes, I was merely stating a fact about TICs - very few local authorities have any spare cash, and closing these things is a quck financial win at the end of the day - for what its worth I think they will be very scarce everywhere in years to come. Do I think it was a daft decsion to close the Weymouth one? thats a hard one to answer as I would prefer it to still be there - I always enjoy going into TICs, and the one by the Kings Statue was nice, although a bit cramped at times - perfect location as well. However , with my realists hat on, what exactly do they do there that is relevant in the year 2014 - people book accommodation more and more on line, you can get coach tickets at the Post Office (although even here, NX have been quoted in saying recently that growth in their internet bookings continue to increase at a fantastic rate), and you can get tourist leaflets and bus timetables at various places in the town. What they are however are "comfort blankets" that people traditionally expect to see in a tourist town - somewhere to go for advice on anything and everything, and I for one are saddened to see them being wiped out, although fully understanding the reasons why. Maybe Condor can be persuaded to include a TIC as part of their proposed new passenger terminal near Berth 1! Cheers Simon N.[/p][/quote]Perhaps you need the TIC to tell you where the Post Office is in Weymouth so they can book their coach tickets? I would certainly miss it easily in it's current location. You are also presuming everyone uses the Internet - not everyone does (and that includes the young). I do think closing the TIC in Weymouth was a short-sighted move by the Council - not only was it in a good visible location, but I believe you should use every weapon in your arsenal to attract holidaymakers to/back to the resort. ksmain
  • Score: 3

8:14pm Fri 27 Jun 14

norosetintedglasses says...

Lets get the basics right first. Drunks outside the pubs during the daytime, rubbish everywhere, dogs mess everywhere, broken pavements, run down buildings, the beach being taken over by amusement rides, tourists and locals wary about going out in the evenings. See if you can spot the patrolling policeman.Walk around the train station area and Park Street, that will open your eyes. Unless Weymouth sorts this out first it will continue to be a tacky seaside town.
Lets get the basics right first. Drunks outside the pubs during the daytime, rubbish everywhere, dogs mess everywhere, broken pavements, run down buildings, the beach being taken over by amusement rides, tourists and locals wary about going out in the evenings. See if you can spot the patrolling policeman.Walk around the train station area and Park Street, that will open your eyes. Unless Weymouth sorts this out first it will continue to be a tacky seaside town. norosetintedglasses
  • Score: 16

8:25pm Fri 27 Jun 14

JamesYoung says...

Simon Nicholas wrote:
codlips wrote:
MrTomSmith wrote:
monkeydog wrote:
MrTomSmith wrote:
Simon 1965 wrote:
nomadengland wrote:
islandman wrote: But why is the Pavilion still displaying a huge advert for LAST years pantomime ??????
I see the Pavilion has now changed this. Surely one of the biggest problems here in Weymouth is no Tourist Information Centre!! We have been to many towns in Wales over the past few weeks and every one (even small towns) have a really good TIC. Why was ours ever removed from the prominent and central place on the seafront. I know the Pavilion has information now, but this is a long way out of town for people getting off of coaches, staying in hotels etc. and no way compensates for a proper TIC where details of B&B bookings, camp sites, cycle routes, walking routes, bus and train times, etc., can be found.
Closure of TIC`s is now happening all over the UK- there are none in the Isle of Wight anymore.and here locally in Barry Island, the TIC has closed as well.

Simon N.
One of the WORST decisions WPBC have ever made and you are still defending it..............you are incredible.
You need to calm down. He was simply stating a fact. I dare say he thinks it's a daft decision.
Codlips that was amazing, you have worked out I need to be calmed down, when I am very laid back believe me, and not only that defended Simon N which is fair enough, but, you have done it by making up what you THINK are his thoughts! Thats even more incredible. Well done.

Be very interested to see if Simon N comes back and say's it was a daft decision. very interesting indeed, glad you raised the idea Codlips.
I think your quoting the wrong person Tom, I said nothing about you calming down.
This is fun, its not often I cause so much aggrevation on a web-site!

For the record..............

...
Yes, I was merely stating a fact about TICs - very few local authorities have any spare cash, and closing these things is a quck financial win at the end of the day - for what its worth I think they will be very scarce everywhere in years to come.

Do I think it was a daft decsion to close the Weymouth one? thats a hard one to answer as I would prefer it to still be there - I always enjoy going into TICs, and the one by the Kings Statue was nice, although a bit cramped at times - perfect location as well.

However , with my realists hat on, what exactly do they do there that is relevant in the year 2014 - people book accommodation more and more on line, you can get coach tickets at the Post Office (although even here, NX have been quoted in saying recently that growth in their internet bookings continue to increase at a fantastic rate), and you can get tourist leaflets and bus timetables at various places in the town.

What they are however are "comfort blankets" that people traditionally expect to see in a tourist town - somewhere to go for advice on anything and everything, and I for one are saddened to see them being wiped out, although fully understanding the reasons why.

Maybe Condor can be persuaded to include a TIC as part of their proposed new passenger terminal near Berth 1!

Cheers
Simon N.
The TIC is a subsidised advertising/marketin
g service to put profits into the pockets of tourism businesses at the expense of the rest of us.
Had the services the TIC provides been charged out to the companies that benefit from it then it would have continued.
Tellingly, with the exception of a shop on the seafront who were clearly willing to put their money where their mouth is, the other tourist business owners seem content to moan about its demise.
If it was a useful function, they would have clubbed together to fund it themselves.
[quote][p][bold]Simon Nicholas[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]codlips[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MrTomSmith[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]monkeydog[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MrTomSmith[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Simon 1965[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nomadengland[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]islandman[/bold] wrote: But why is the Pavilion still displaying a huge advert for LAST years pantomime ??????[/p][/quote]I see the Pavilion has now changed this. Surely one of the biggest problems here in Weymouth is no Tourist Information Centre!! We have been to many towns in Wales over the past few weeks and every one (even small towns) have a really good TIC. Why was ours ever removed from the prominent and central place on the seafront. I know the Pavilion has information now, but this is a long way out of town for people getting off of coaches, staying in hotels etc. and no way compensates for a proper TIC where details of B&B bookings, camp sites, cycle routes, walking routes, bus and train times, etc., can be found.[/p][/quote]Closure of TIC`s is now happening all over the UK- there are none in the Isle of Wight anymore.and here locally in Barry Island, the TIC has closed as well. Simon N.[/p][/quote]One of the WORST decisions WPBC have ever made and you are still defending it..............you are incredible.[/p][/quote]You need to calm down. He was simply stating a fact. I dare say he thinks it's a daft decision.[/p][/quote]Codlips that was amazing, you have worked out I need to be calmed down, when I am very laid back believe me, and not only that defended Simon N which is fair enough, but, you have done it by making up what you THINK are his thoughts! Thats even more incredible. Well done. Be very interested to see if Simon N comes back and say's it was a daft decision. very interesting indeed, glad you raised the idea Codlips.[/p][/quote]I think your quoting the wrong person Tom, I said nothing about you calming down.[/p][/quote]This is fun, its not often I cause so much aggrevation on a web-site! For the record.............. ... Yes, I was merely stating a fact about TICs - very few local authorities have any spare cash, and closing these things is a quck financial win at the end of the day - for what its worth I think they will be very scarce everywhere in years to come. Do I think it was a daft decsion to close the Weymouth one? thats a hard one to answer as I would prefer it to still be there - I always enjoy going into TICs, and the one by the Kings Statue was nice, although a bit cramped at times - perfect location as well. However , with my realists hat on, what exactly do they do there that is relevant in the year 2014 - people book accommodation more and more on line, you can get coach tickets at the Post Office (although even here, NX have been quoted in saying recently that growth in their internet bookings continue to increase at a fantastic rate), and you can get tourist leaflets and bus timetables at various places in the town. What they are however are "comfort blankets" that people traditionally expect to see in a tourist town - somewhere to go for advice on anything and everything, and I for one are saddened to see them being wiped out, although fully understanding the reasons why. Maybe Condor can be persuaded to include a TIC as part of their proposed new passenger terminal near Berth 1! Cheers Simon N.[/p][/quote]The TIC is a subsidised advertising/marketin g service to put profits into the pockets of tourism businesses at the expense of the rest of us. Had the services the TIC provides been charged out to the companies that benefit from it then it would have continued. Tellingly, with the exception of a shop on the seafront who were clearly willing to put their money where their mouth is, the other tourist business owners seem content to moan about its demise. If it was a useful function, they would have clubbed together to fund it themselves. JamesYoung
  • Score: 0

8:26pm Fri 27 Jun 14

JamesYoung says...

JamesYoung wrote:
Simon Nicholas wrote:
codlips wrote:
MrTomSmith wrote:
monkeydog wrote:
MrTomSmith wrote:
Simon 1965 wrote:
nomadengland wrote:
islandman wrote: But why is the Pavilion still displaying a huge advert for LAST years pantomime ??????
I see the Pavilion has now changed this. Surely one of the biggest problems here in Weymouth is no Tourist Information Centre!! We have been to many towns in Wales over the past few weeks and every one (even small towns) have a really good TIC. Why was ours ever removed from the prominent and central place on the seafront. I know the Pavilion has information now, but this is a long way out of town for people getting off of coaches, staying in hotels etc. and no way compensates for a proper TIC where details of B&B bookings, camp sites, cycle routes, walking routes, bus and train times, etc., can be found.
Closure of TIC`s is now happening all over the UK- there are none in the Isle of Wight anymore.and here locally in Barry Island, the TIC has closed as well.

Simon N.
One of the WORST decisions WPBC have ever made and you are still defending it..............you are incredible.
You need to calm down. He was simply stating a fact. I dare say he thinks it's a daft decision.
Codlips that was amazing, you have worked out I need to be calmed down, when I am very laid back believe me, and not only that defended Simon N which is fair enough, but, you have done it by making up what you THINK are his thoughts! Thats even more incredible. Well done.

Be very interested to see if Simon N comes back and say's it was a daft decision. very interesting indeed, glad you raised the idea Codlips.
I think your quoting the wrong person Tom, I said nothing about you calming down.
This is fun, its not often I cause so much aggrevation on a web-site!

For the record..............


...
Yes, I was merely stating a fact about TICs - very few local authorities have any spare cash, and closing these things is a quck financial win at the end of the day - for what its worth I think they will be very scarce everywhere in years to come.

Do I think it was a daft decsion to close the Weymouth one? thats a hard one to answer as I would prefer it to still be there - I always enjoy going into TICs, and the one by the Kings Statue was nice, although a bit cramped at times - perfect location as well.

However , with my realists hat on, what exactly do they do there that is relevant in the year 2014 - people book accommodation more and more on line, you can get coach tickets at the Post Office (although even here, NX have been quoted in saying recently that growth in their internet bookings continue to increase at a fantastic rate), and you can get tourist leaflets and bus timetables at various places in the town.

What they are however are "comfort blankets" that people traditionally expect to see in a tourist town - somewhere to go for advice on anything and everything, and I for one are saddened to see them being wiped out, although fully understanding the reasons why.

Maybe Condor can be persuaded to include a TIC as part of their proposed new passenger terminal near Berth 1!

Cheers
Simon N.
The TIC is a subsidised advertising/marketin

g service to put profits into the pockets of tourism businesses at the expense of the rest of us.
Had the services the TIC provides been charged out to the companies that benefit from it then it would have continued.
Tellingly, with the exception of a shop on the seafront who were clearly willing to put their money where their mouth is, the other tourist business owners seem content to moan about its demise.
If it was a useful function, they would have clubbed together to fund it themselves.
let me clarify before the pedants comment: i know businesses were charged for the service, but they were clearly not charged at a commercial (at cost, or cost plus profit) rate.
[quote][p][bold]JamesYoung[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Simon Nicholas[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]codlips[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MrTomSmith[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]monkeydog[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MrTomSmith[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Simon 1965[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nomadengland[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]islandman[/bold] wrote: But why is the Pavilion still displaying a huge advert for LAST years pantomime ??????[/p][/quote]I see the Pavilion has now changed this. Surely one of the biggest problems here in Weymouth is no Tourist Information Centre!! We have been to many towns in Wales over the past few weeks and every one (even small towns) have a really good TIC. Why was ours ever removed from the prominent and central place on the seafront. I know the Pavilion has information now, but this is a long way out of town for people getting off of coaches, staying in hotels etc. and no way compensates for a proper TIC where details of B&B bookings, camp sites, cycle routes, walking routes, bus and train times, etc., can be found.[/p][/quote]Closure of TIC`s is now happening all over the UK- there are none in the Isle of Wight anymore.and here locally in Barry Island, the TIC has closed as well. Simon N.[/p][/quote]One of the WORST decisions WPBC have ever made and you are still defending it..............you are incredible.[/p][/quote]You need to calm down. He was simply stating a fact. I dare say he thinks it's a daft decision.[/p][/quote]Codlips that was amazing, you have worked out I need to be calmed down, when I am very laid back believe me, and not only that defended Simon N which is fair enough, but, you have done it by making up what you THINK are his thoughts! Thats even more incredible. Well done. Be very interested to see if Simon N comes back and say's it was a daft decision. very interesting indeed, glad you raised the idea Codlips.[/p][/quote]I think your quoting the wrong person Tom, I said nothing about you calming down.[/p][/quote]This is fun, its not often I cause so much aggrevation on a web-site! For the record.............. ... Yes, I was merely stating a fact about TICs - very few local authorities have any spare cash, and closing these things is a quck financial win at the end of the day - for what its worth I think they will be very scarce everywhere in years to come. Do I think it was a daft decsion to close the Weymouth one? thats a hard one to answer as I would prefer it to still be there - I always enjoy going into TICs, and the one by the Kings Statue was nice, although a bit cramped at times - perfect location as well. However , with my realists hat on, what exactly do they do there that is relevant in the year 2014 - people book accommodation more and more on line, you can get coach tickets at the Post Office (although even here, NX have been quoted in saying recently that growth in their internet bookings continue to increase at a fantastic rate), and you can get tourist leaflets and bus timetables at various places in the town. What they are however are "comfort blankets" that people traditionally expect to see in a tourist town - somewhere to go for advice on anything and everything, and I for one are saddened to see them being wiped out, although fully understanding the reasons why. Maybe Condor can be persuaded to include a TIC as part of their proposed new passenger terminal near Berth 1! Cheers Simon N.[/p][/quote]The TIC is a subsidised advertising/marketin g service to put profits into the pockets of tourism businesses at the expense of the rest of us. Had the services the TIC provides been charged out to the companies that benefit from it then it would have continued. Tellingly, with the exception of a shop on the seafront who were clearly willing to put their money where their mouth is, the other tourist business owners seem content to moan about its demise. If it was a useful function, they would have clubbed together to fund it themselves.[/p][/quote]let me clarify before the pedants comment: i know businesses were charged for the service, but they were clearly not charged at a commercial (at cost, or cost plus profit) rate. JamesYoung
  • Score: 0

8:28pm Fri 27 Jun 14

JamesYoung says...

MrTomSmith wrote:
siriem wrote:
Whilst I will admit that no-one has really dwelt on the issue in this particular thread - why are there so many people who think that fairy lights are the answer to all Weymouth's problems?
They have gone on and on about it so much, I am beginning to think it's true. They are the answer.

But you point is important, because there is no easy answer, I continue to believe we aren't doing that bad in the grand scheme of things, but do have problems, some easier than others to sort out. But spot on Fairy Lights will certainly not make any difference whatsoever. They might keep quite a lot of people happy, but that's about it.
The town isn't doing "that bad", but a lot of residents don't benefit (because of the seasonal and part time nature of the tourism related jobs).
The comment about bulldozing the seafront and building a shopping centre might not be far off the mark - while i'd consider that vandalism i do think that a massive programme of investment is needed to create an all-weather resort.
Sadly, that investment is not likely to materialise any time soon
[quote][p][bold]MrTomSmith[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]siriem[/bold] wrote: Whilst I will admit that no-one has really dwelt on the issue in this particular thread - why are there so many people who think that fairy lights are the answer to all Weymouth's problems?[/p][/quote]They have gone on and on about it so much, I am beginning to think it's true. They are the answer. But you point is important, because there is no easy answer, I continue to believe we aren't doing that bad in the grand scheme of things, but do have problems, some easier than others to sort out. But spot on Fairy Lights will certainly not make any difference whatsoever. They might keep quite a lot of people happy, but that's about it.[/p][/quote]The town isn't doing "that bad", but a lot of residents don't benefit (because of the seasonal and part time nature of the tourism related jobs). The comment about bulldozing the seafront and building a shopping centre might not be far off the mark - while i'd consider that vandalism i do think that a massive programme of investment is needed to create an all-weather resort. Sadly, that investment is not likely to materialise any time soon JamesYoung
  • Score: -3

8:31pm Fri 27 Jun 14

norosetintedglasses says...

Come on what about getting the basics right first. Look at the drunks outside the pubs, especially in the daytime. Locals and tourists fearful to go in town in the evening. Anyone played spot the patrolling policeman lately. Rubbish and dogs mess everywhere. Our once glorious sandy beach now half covered up with junk. Tacky funfair every bank holiday. Broken pavements and dilapidated buildings.Go around the train station area, that will open your eyes. This is what the tourists really see, ask them! Weymouth needs to decide if it wants to remain a tacky town or smarten itself up.
Come on what about getting the basics right first. Look at the drunks outside the pubs, especially in the daytime. Locals and tourists fearful to go in town in the evening. Anyone played spot the patrolling policeman lately. Rubbish and dogs mess everywhere. Our once glorious sandy beach now half covered up with junk. Tacky funfair every bank holiday. Broken pavements and dilapidated buildings.Go around the train station area, that will open your eyes. This is what the tourists really see, ask them! Weymouth needs to decide if it wants to remain a tacky town or smarten itself up. norosetintedglasses
  • Score: 11

8:36pm Fri 27 Jun 14

luffy22 says...

Yet again the council has so missed the point, a few extra tourists won't fix the problem, there is no infrastructure, no jobs, all the buildings are old and run down, the town centre is a mess, fire station gone to be turned into an old peoples home!!! it should be made into a business area that attracts tourists and gives the locals something to do. The pavilion is a joke, JIM DAVIDSON some old comedian from the 80's.Moscow Ballet oh my god!!!!! is that the best they can do. They need the acts that have won the factor to be performing, that should be their target.
The town centre needs knocking down and rebuilding, ok its old but its past its time, knock it down and build a brand new shopping centre, like Bristol did with the cabbot centre. The god awful hotels on the sea from need to knocked down and be replaced with modern hotels that offer style, hospitality and michelin star food, bring in the big conferences give Brighton and Bournemouth some competition not 150 year old rooms for OAP's
Then get the roads sorted out, a motorway that runs between taunton and ringwood that touches on the north of dorchester so that people can get here and then back again. Knock down the pavilion and build an all weather leasure centre with ice skating, family swimming pools, chain restaurants, and a concert centre. Then get industry in so that their are jobs for people, science centres, aero space, office space for dot.com industries, make weymouth the silicone valley of the south. Build a university for medical and sciences, perhaps bring back the old teacher training college, careers that generate wealth remove the college doing media studies and other non courses.
The above is what Weymouth should set their sights on, it won't be met but set sights high and then see what can be achieved.
Not .' lets spend some money on advertising old fashioned hotels and B&B' and achieve absolutely nothing. With a few more tourists their still won't be any decent jobs for the kids growing up. only drugs, part time jobs and unaffordable housing.
Yet again the council has so missed the point, a few extra tourists won't fix the problem, there is no infrastructure, no jobs, all the buildings are old and run down, the town centre is a mess, fire station gone to be turned into an old peoples home!!! it should be made into a business area that attracts tourists and gives the locals something to do. The pavilion is a joke, JIM DAVIDSON some old comedian from the 80's.Moscow Ballet oh my god!!!!! is that the best they can do. They need the acts that have won the factor to be performing, that should be their target. The town centre needs knocking down and rebuilding, ok its old but its past its time, knock it down and build a brand new shopping centre, like Bristol did with the cabbot centre. The god awful hotels on the sea from need to knocked down and be replaced with modern hotels that offer style, hospitality and michelin star food, bring in the big conferences give Brighton and Bournemouth some competition not 150 year old rooms for OAP's Then get the roads sorted out, a motorway that runs between taunton and ringwood that touches on the north of dorchester so that people can get here and then back again. Knock down the pavilion and build an all weather leasure centre with ice skating, family swimming pools, chain restaurants, and a concert centre. Then get industry in so that their are jobs for people, science centres, aero space, office space for dot.com industries, make weymouth the silicone valley of the south. Build a university for medical and sciences, perhaps bring back the old teacher training college, careers that generate wealth remove the college doing media studies and other non courses. The above is what Weymouth should set their sights on, it won't be met but set sights high and then see what can be achieved. Not .' lets spend some money on advertising old fashioned hotels and B&B' and achieve absolutely nothing. With a few more tourists their still won't be any decent jobs for the kids growing up. only drugs, part time jobs and unaffordable housing. luffy22
  • Score: 4

8:47pm Fri 27 Jun 14

luffy22 says...

OMG, reading back and people are arguing over the TIC.
The TIC is not the problem, do you really think the problems outlined in the national press would be sorted by having a TIC on the seafront.
The TIC is such a small part, an important part but is is so minute in the scale of Weymouth's problems.
If the TIC was opened again can you just imagine the conversation in one of the littlemoor drug dens
Drug taker 1- Oh look the TIC has opened on the seafront
Drug taker 2 replies, well thats such good news, I'm now never going to take drugs again or torch a car, or steal a moped and go joy riding around the estate ever again!!

Within this conversation priorities need to be set and the issues raised by the journalist need to be listened to
OMG, reading back and people are arguing over the TIC. The TIC is not the problem, do you really think the problems outlined in the national press would be sorted by having a TIC on the seafront. The TIC is such a small part, an important part but is is so minute in the scale of Weymouth's problems. If the TIC was opened again can you just imagine the conversation in one of the littlemoor drug dens Drug taker 1- Oh look the TIC has opened on the seafront Drug taker 2 replies, well thats such good news, I'm now never going to take drugs again or torch a car, or steal a moped and go joy riding around the estate ever again!! Within this conversation priorities need to be set and the issues raised by the journalist need to be listened to luffy22
  • Score: 7

9:11pm Fri 27 Jun 14

Dorset Voyager says...

A quote from The Daily Echo.."POOLE Harbour Commissioners’ proposals to modernise the commercial port have been submitted to the Marine Management Organisation.

The first phase of an £11million improvement project is for a new deep water quay within the commercial port, designed to accommodate a wide range of vessels".

Could this be what Condor were waiting for? I hope not.
A quote from The Daily Echo.."POOLE Harbour Commissioners’ proposals to modernise the commercial port have been submitted to the Marine Management Organisation. The first phase of an £11million improvement project is for a new deep water quay within the commercial port, designed to accommodate a wide range of vessels". Could this be what Condor were waiting for? I hope not. Dorset Voyager
  • Score: 6

10:01pm Fri 27 Jun 14

JustNiz says...

I'm amazed that no-one has yet commented about probably the single biggest factor that is preventing more visitors to the town centre.

Everyone I know from outside Weymouth all say the same thing, they would come into town more if only it was easier and cheaper to park.

its often hard to find an open parking spot anywhere near the town in the winter. its not even worth looking in the summer, and the rates the council car parks charge is a blatant rip-off, even in the winter when its mostly just locals.
I'm amazed that no-one has yet commented about probably the single biggest factor that is preventing more visitors to the town centre. Everyone I know from outside Weymouth all say the same thing, they would come into town more if only it was easier and cheaper to park. its often hard to find an open parking spot anywhere near the town in the winter. its not even worth looking in the summer, and the rates the council car parks charge is a blatant rip-off, even in the winter when its mostly just locals. JustNiz
  • Score: -2

10:15pm Fri 27 Jun 14

Rocksalt says...

luffy22 wrote:
Yet again the council has so missed the point, a few extra tourists won't fix the problem, there is no infrastructure, no jobs, all the buildings are old and run down, the town centre is a mess, fire station gone to be turned into an old peoples home!!! it should be made into a business area that attracts tourists and gives the locals something to do. The pavilion is a joke, JIM DAVIDSON some old comedian from the 80's.Moscow Ballet oh my god!!!!! is that the best they can do. They need the acts that have won the factor to be performing, that should be their target.
The town centre needs knocking down and rebuilding, ok its old but its past its time, knock it down and build a brand new shopping centre, like Bristol did with the cabbot centre. The god awful hotels on the sea from need to knocked down and be replaced with modern hotels that offer style, hospitality and michelin star food, bring in the big conferences give Brighton and Bournemouth some competition not 150 year old rooms for OAP's
Then get the roads sorted out, a motorway that runs between taunton and ringwood that touches on the north of dorchester so that people can get here and then back again. Knock down the pavilion and build an all weather leasure centre with ice skating, family swimming pools, chain restaurants, and a concert centre. Then get industry in so that their are jobs for people, science centres, aero space, office space for dot.com industries, make weymouth the silicone valley of the south. Build a university for medical and sciences, perhaps bring back the old teacher training college, careers that generate wealth remove the college doing media studies and other non courses.
The above is what Weymouth should set their sights on, it won't be met but set sights high and then see what can be achieved.
Not .' lets spend some money on advertising old fashioned hotels and B&B' and achieve absolutely nothing. With a few more tourists their still won't be any decent jobs for the kids growing up. only drugs, part time jobs and unaffordable housing.
I hardly know where to start with this, other than to wonder why you didn't demand that 'they' didn't find a cure for cancer and bring about world peace. I am all for ambition, but simp!y boshing out a wish list that would cost about £3 billion to create isn't entirely helpful. Where do you propose the money comes from ?
[quote][p][bold]luffy22[/bold] wrote: Yet again the council has so missed the point, a few extra tourists won't fix the problem, there is no infrastructure, no jobs, all the buildings are old and run down, the town centre is a mess, fire station gone to be turned into an old peoples home!!! it should be made into a business area that attracts tourists and gives the locals something to do. The pavilion is a joke, JIM DAVIDSON some old comedian from the 80's.Moscow Ballet oh my god!!!!! is that the best they can do. They need the acts that have won the factor to be performing, that should be their target. The town centre needs knocking down and rebuilding, ok its old but its past its time, knock it down and build a brand new shopping centre, like Bristol did with the cabbot centre. The god awful hotels on the sea from need to knocked down and be replaced with modern hotels that offer style, hospitality and michelin star food, bring in the big conferences give Brighton and Bournemouth some competition not 150 year old rooms for OAP's Then get the roads sorted out, a motorway that runs between taunton and ringwood that touches on the north of dorchester so that people can get here and then back again. Knock down the pavilion and build an all weather leasure centre with ice skating, family swimming pools, chain restaurants, and a concert centre. Then get industry in so that their are jobs for people, science centres, aero space, office space for dot.com industries, make weymouth the silicone valley of the south. Build a university for medical and sciences, perhaps bring back the old teacher training college, careers that generate wealth remove the college doing media studies and other non courses. The above is what Weymouth should set their sights on, it won't be met but set sights high and then see what can be achieved. Not .' lets spend some money on advertising old fashioned hotels and B&B' and achieve absolutely nothing. With a few more tourists their still won't be any decent jobs for the kids growing up. only drugs, part time jobs and unaffordable housing.[/p][/quote]I hardly know where to start with this, other than to wonder why you didn't demand that 'they' didn't find a cure for cancer and bring about world peace. I am all for ambition, but simp!y boshing out a wish list that would cost about £3 billion to create isn't entirely helpful. Where do you propose the money comes from ? Rocksalt
  • Score: -2

11:41pm Fri 27 Jun 14

cosmick says...

Weymouth is a wounderfull resort, With problems.
The bucket and spade holiday makers bring kids to the area, they spend money at the beach shops, in town, and at the car parks.
The town is nice being full of a mix of buildings old and new. To increase the money take at the shops we need to get more footfall.
Maybe the park and ride could be cheaper with a ticket that you use on the normal bus service, that could call at the park and ride car parks. We could then get rid of the buses the council use and the drivers ect.
The T.I.C. is needed, When i had a holiday letting company the T.I.C did charge a %.
I went to the T.I.C. at Dorchester but could not book there to see Jesus Christ Superstar, i still went but how many people get put off? Good Service makes money.
Weymouth town i would move on drunks, beggers, big issue sellers and drug users or sellers would be so put on upon the would go elsewhere.
The Habour is an asset and should be used as such. We must keep the ferry.
All is not lost we need councilors who are up to the task of getting things right. You cannot always make cuts to save money.
The Pavillion i think is also worth keeping the people running it are doing there best, yes they are talking about some "B" acts that are dated, but remember if you want up to date acts YOU will have to go to support them in order to get the money in.
Its not all doom and gloom just need to get back on track.
As for the area around the train station this is a problem to be sorted, dont forget they are not all bad.
Last thing for now i would shut clubs and pubs at 2 am.
Weymouth is a wounderfull resort, With problems. The bucket and spade holiday makers bring kids to the area, they spend money at the beach shops, in town, and at the car parks. The town is nice being full of a mix of buildings old and new. To increase the money take at the shops we need to get more footfall. Maybe the park and ride could be cheaper with a ticket that you use on the normal bus service, that could call at the park and ride car parks. We could then get rid of the buses the council use and the drivers ect. The T.I.C. is needed, When i had a holiday letting company the T.I.C did charge a %. I went to the T.I.C. at Dorchester but could not book there to see Jesus Christ Superstar, i still went but how many people get put off? Good Service makes money. Weymouth town i would move on drunks, beggers, big issue sellers and drug users or sellers would be so put on upon the would go elsewhere. The Habour is an asset and should be used as such. We must keep the ferry. All is not lost we need councilors who are up to the task of getting things right. You cannot always make cuts to save money. The Pavillion i think is also worth keeping the people running it are doing there best, yes they are talking about some "B" acts that are dated, but remember if you want up to date acts YOU will have to go to support them in order to get the money in. Its not all doom and gloom just need to get back on track. As for the area around the train station this is a problem to be sorted, dont forget they are not all bad. Last thing for now i would shut clubs and pubs at 2 am. cosmick
  • Score: 6

11:59pm Fri 27 Jun 14

cosmick says...

I forgot to say , i would work on getting better paid jobs to the area, by going out and hunting firms to come here. The local workforce could be an asset to firms as unlike other areas there are not at the moment the chance to chop and change jobs, so if you get a job with a decent wage you would look after it.
There are lots of Negitives here but you have to change them into positives. Weymouth is not a lost cause.
I forgot to say , i would work on getting better paid jobs to the area, by going out and hunting firms to come here. The local workforce could be an asset to firms as unlike other areas there are not at the moment the chance to chop and change jobs, so if you get a job with a decent wage you would look after it. There are lots of Negitives here but you have to change them into positives. Weymouth is not a lost cause. cosmick
  • Score: 4

12:08am Sat 28 Jun 14

MrTomSmith says...

JustNiz wrote:
I'm amazed that no-one has yet commented about probably the single biggest factor that is preventing more visitors to the town centre.

Everyone I know from outside Weymouth all say the same thing, they would come into town more if only it was easier and cheaper to park.

its often hard to find an open parking spot anywhere near the town in the winter. its not even worth looking in the summer, and the rates the council car parks charge is a blatant rip-off, even in the winter when its mostly just locals.
I can drive into town any day, any time and always get a parking place, in winter obviously in 10 seconds, in height of summer within 3 minutes 50p for one hour is not a rip off. Its all changed JustNiz

If you drive into a seaside town on a hot summers day in July you must surely expect to just have a 10 minute search for a car park. (When you don't know where the spaces are) But lets be honest here, that's only a FEW days of the year. Most of the time like the other 340 days there is no problem.

You check the prices JustNiz they are now pretty reasonable.
[quote][p][bold]JustNiz[/bold] wrote: I'm amazed that no-one has yet commented about probably the single biggest factor that is preventing more visitors to the town centre. Everyone I know from outside Weymouth all say the same thing, they would come into town more if only it was easier and cheaper to park. its often hard to find an open parking spot anywhere near the town in the winter. its not even worth looking in the summer, and the rates the council car parks charge is a blatant rip-off, even in the winter when its mostly just locals.[/p][/quote]I can drive into town any day, any time and always get a parking place, in winter obviously in 10 seconds, in height of summer within 3 minutes 50p for one hour is not a rip off. Its all changed JustNiz If you drive into a seaside town on a hot summers day in July you must surely expect to just have a 10 minute search for a car park. (When you don't know where the spaces are) But lets be honest here, that's only a FEW days of the year. Most of the time like the other 340 days there is no problem. You check the prices JustNiz they are now pretty reasonable. MrTomSmith
  • Score: 3

12:16am Sat 28 Jun 14

MrTomSmith says...

Rocksalt wrote:
luffy22 wrote:
Yet again the council has so missed the point, a few extra tourists won't fix the problem, there is no infrastructure, no jobs, all the buildings are old and run down, the town centre is a mess, fire station gone to be turned into an old peoples home!!! it should be made into a business area that attracts tourists and gives the locals something to do. The pavilion is a joke, JIM DAVIDSON some old comedian from the 80's.Moscow Ballet oh my god!!!!! is that the best they can do. They need the acts that have won the factor to be performing, that should be their target.
The town centre needs knocking down and rebuilding, ok its old but its past its time, knock it down and build a brand new shopping centre, like Bristol did with the cabbot centre. The god awful hotels on the sea from need to knocked down and be replaced with modern hotels that offer style, hospitality and michelin star food, bring in the big conferences give Brighton and Bournemouth some competition not 150 year old rooms for OAP's
Then get the roads sorted out, a motorway that runs between taunton and ringwood that touches on the north of dorchester so that people can get here and then back again. Knock down the pavilion and build an all weather leasure centre with ice skating, family swimming pools, chain restaurants, and a concert centre. Then get industry in so that their are jobs for people, science centres, aero space, office space for dot.com industries, make weymouth the silicone valley of the south. Build a university for medical and sciences, perhaps bring back the old teacher training college, careers that generate wealth remove the college doing media studies and other non courses.
The above is what Weymouth should set their sights on, it won't be met but set sights high and then see what can be achieved.
Not .' lets spend some money on advertising old fashioned hotels and B&B' and achieve absolutely nothing. With a few more tourists their still won't be any decent jobs for the kids growing up. only drugs, part time jobs and unaffordable housing.
I hardly know where to start with this, other than to wonder why you didn't demand that 'they' didn't find a cure for cancer and bring about world peace. I am all for ambition, but simp!y boshing out a wish list that would cost about £3 billion to create isn't entirely helpful. Where do you propose the money comes from ?
30 Billion might just about cover it, but great wish list.

Let me see what do I want for Christmas
[quote][p][bold]Rocksalt[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]luffy22[/bold] wrote: Yet again the council has so missed the point, a few extra tourists won't fix the problem, there is no infrastructure, no jobs, all the buildings are old and run down, the town centre is a mess, fire station gone to be turned into an old peoples home!!! it should be made into a business area that attracts tourists and gives the locals something to do. The pavilion is a joke, JIM DAVIDSON some old comedian from the 80's.Moscow Ballet oh my god!!!!! is that the best they can do. They need the acts that have won the factor to be performing, that should be their target. The town centre needs knocking down and rebuilding, ok its old but its past its time, knock it down and build a brand new shopping centre, like Bristol did with the cabbot centre. The god awful hotels on the sea from need to knocked down and be replaced with modern hotels that offer style, hospitality and michelin star food, bring in the big conferences give Brighton and Bournemouth some competition not 150 year old rooms for OAP's Then get the roads sorted out, a motorway that runs between taunton and ringwood that touches on the north of dorchester so that people can get here and then back again. Knock down the pavilion and build an all weather leasure centre with ice skating, family swimming pools, chain restaurants, and a concert centre. Then get industry in so that their are jobs for people, science centres, aero space, office space for dot.com industries, make weymouth the silicone valley of the south. Build a university for medical and sciences, perhaps bring back the old teacher training college, careers that generate wealth remove the college doing media studies and other non courses. The above is what Weymouth should set their sights on, it won't be met but set sights high and then see what can be achieved. Not .' lets spend some money on advertising old fashioned hotels and B&B' and achieve absolutely nothing. With a few more tourists their still won't be any decent jobs for the kids growing up. only drugs, part time jobs and unaffordable housing.[/p][/quote]I hardly know where to start with this, other than to wonder why you didn't demand that 'they' didn't find a cure for cancer and bring about world peace. I am all for ambition, but simp!y boshing out a wish list that would cost about £3 billion to create isn't entirely helpful. Where do you propose the money comes from ?[/p][/quote]30 Billion might just about cover it, but great wish list. Let me see what do I want for Christmas MrTomSmith
  • Score: 0

12:28am Sat 28 Jun 14

MrTomSmith says...

Dorset Voyager wrote:
A quote from The Daily Echo.."POOLE Harbour Commissioners’ proposals to modernise the commercial port have been submitted to the Marine Management Organisation.

The first phase of an £11million improvement project is for a new deep water quay within the commercial port, designed to accommodate a wide range of vessels".

Could this be what Condor were waiting for? I hope not.
Interesting DV very interesting. I do have to say, that Weymouth Harbour is not a PORT, it is a small harbour and I really do think we all have to remember that.

How much is the port making from everything else other than Condor?
It is just a question, I have no idea.

There will come a time, maybe quite soon or maybe in 10/20 years, when Condor will be miles too big for Weymouth Harbour, have we reached that point now?

Fair question though I hope. Off topic as well, I guess we will have a Condor Headline soon. :-)
[quote][p][bold]Dorset Voyager[/bold] wrote: A quote from The Daily Echo.."POOLE Harbour Commissioners’ proposals to modernise the commercial port have been submitted to the Marine Management Organisation. The first phase of an £11million improvement project is for a new deep water quay within the commercial port, designed to accommodate a wide range of vessels". Could this be what Condor were waiting for? I hope not.[/p][/quote]Interesting DV very interesting. I do have to say, that Weymouth Harbour is not a PORT, it is a small harbour and I really do think we all have to remember that. How much is the port making from everything else other than Condor? It is just a question, I have no idea. There will come a time, maybe quite soon or maybe in 10/20 years, when Condor will be miles too big for Weymouth Harbour, have we reached that point now? Fair question though I hope. Off topic as well, I guess we will have a Condor Headline soon. :-) MrTomSmith
  • Score: 0

7:58am Sat 28 Jun 14

Jimmytheone says...

Olympic Legacy & Not so bad
Four friends have stayed in Weymouth for two weeks every year since 1997 not interested in the Olympics or the thousands of people ( what a joke ) they booked to stay in Swanage as an alternative. They recall it is as bad as Weymouth is now if not worse.?? I rang and said are you coming up for the Carnival as usual. No we are going to try North Devon . Well not coming because of the Olympics has opened are old eyes and we are moving on.
How many more people are there like this ?? This is sad as i am Weymouth born &bred. I Ask the people who got top money and MBE's to try and explain to me how their fantasy has help ruin our holiday town.
Olympic Legacy & Not so bad Four friends have stayed in Weymouth for two weeks every year since 1997 not interested in the Olympics or the thousands of people ( what a joke ) they booked to stay in Swanage as an alternative. They recall it is as bad as Weymouth is now if not worse.?? I rang and said are you coming up for the Carnival as usual. No we are going to try North Devon . Well not coming because of the Olympics has opened are old eyes and we are moving on. How many more people are there like this ?? This is sad as i am Weymouth born &bred. I Ask the people who got top money and MBE's to try and explain to me how their fantasy has help ruin our holiday town. Jimmytheone
  • Score: 0

8:25am Sat 28 Jun 14

Caption Sensible says...

luffy22 wrote:
Yet again the council has so missed the point, a few extra tourists won't fix the problem, there is no infrastructure, no jobs, all the buildings are old and run down, the town centre is a mess, fire station gone to be turned into an old peoples home!!! it should be made into a business area that attracts tourists and gives the locals something to do. The pavilion is a joke, JIM DAVIDSON some old comedian from the 80's.Moscow Ballet oh my god!!!!! is that the best they can do. They need the acts that have won the factor to be performing, that should be their target.
The town centre needs knocking down and rebuilding, ok its old but its past its time, knock it down and build a brand new shopping centre, like Bristol did with the cabbot centre. The god awful hotels on the sea from need to knocked down and be replaced with modern hotels that offer style, hospitality and michelin star food, bring in the big conferences give Brighton and Bournemouth some competition not 150 year old rooms for OAP's
Then get the roads sorted out, a motorway that runs between taunton and ringwood that touches on the north of dorchester so that people can get here and then back again. Knock down the pavilion and build an all weather leasure centre with ice skating, family swimming pools, chain restaurants, and a concert centre. Then get industry in so that their are jobs for people, science centres, aero space, office space for dot.com industries, make weymouth the silicone valley of the south. Build a university for medical and sciences, perhaps bring back the old teacher training college, careers that generate wealth remove the college doing media studies and other non courses.
The above is what Weymouth should set their sights on, it won't be met but set sights high and then see what can be achieved.
Not .' lets spend some money on advertising old fashioned hotels and B&B' and achieve absolutely nothing. With a few more tourists their still won't be any decent jobs for the kids growing up. only drugs, part time jobs and unaffordable housing.
At last, someone realising the real issues and proposing solutions.

Who gives a **** about fairy lights etc...
[quote][p][bold]luffy22[/bold] wrote: Yet again the council has so missed the point, a few extra tourists won't fix the problem, there is no infrastructure, no jobs, all the buildings are old and run down, the town centre is a mess, fire station gone to be turned into an old peoples home!!! it should be made into a business area that attracts tourists and gives the locals something to do. The pavilion is a joke, JIM DAVIDSON some old comedian from the 80's.Moscow Ballet oh my god!!!!! is that the best they can do. They need the acts that have won the factor to be performing, that should be their target. The town centre needs knocking down and rebuilding, ok its old but its past its time, knock it down and build a brand new shopping centre, like Bristol did with the cabbot centre. The god awful hotels on the sea from need to knocked down and be replaced with modern hotels that offer style, hospitality and michelin star food, bring in the big conferences give Brighton and Bournemouth some competition not 150 year old rooms for OAP's Then get the roads sorted out, a motorway that runs between taunton and ringwood that touches on the north of dorchester so that people can get here and then back again. Knock down the pavilion and build an all weather leasure centre with ice skating, family swimming pools, chain restaurants, and a concert centre. Then get industry in so that their are jobs for people, science centres, aero space, office space for dot.com industries, make weymouth the silicone valley of the south. Build a university for medical and sciences, perhaps bring back the old teacher training college, careers that generate wealth remove the college doing media studies and other non courses. The above is what Weymouth should set their sights on, it won't be met but set sights high and then see what can be achieved. Not .' lets spend some money on advertising old fashioned hotels and B&B' and achieve absolutely nothing. With a few more tourists their still won't be any decent jobs for the kids growing up. only drugs, part time jobs and unaffordable housing.[/p][/quote]At last, someone realising the real issues and proposing solutions. Who gives a **** about fairy lights etc... Caption Sensible
  • Score: -1

8:31am Sat 28 Jun 14

Caption Sensible says...

Caption Sensible wrote:
luffy22 wrote:
Yet again the council has so missed the point, a few extra tourists won't fix the problem, there is no infrastructure, no jobs, all the buildings are old and run down, the town centre is a mess, fire station gone to be turned into an old peoples home!!! it should be made into a business area that attracts tourists and gives the locals something to do. The pavilion is a joke, JIM DAVIDSON some old comedian from the 80's.Moscow Ballet oh my god!!!!! is that the best they can do. They need the acts that have won the factor to be performing, that should be their target.
The town centre needs knocking down and rebuilding, ok its old but its past its time, knock it down and build a brand new shopping centre, like Bristol did with the cabbot centre. The god awful hotels on the sea from need to knocked down and be replaced with modern hotels that offer style, hospitality and michelin star food, bring in the big conferences give Brighton and Bournemouth some competition not 150 year old rooms for OAP's
Then get the roads sorted out, a motorway that runs between taunton and ringwood that touches on the north of dorchester so that people can get here and then back again. Knock down the pavilion and build an all weather leasure centre with ice skating, family swimming pools, chain restaurants, and a concert centre. Then get industry in so that their are jobs for people, science centres, aero space, office space for dot.com industries, make weymouth the silicone valley of the south. Build a university for medical and sciences, perhaps bring back the old teacher training college, careers that generate wealth remove the college doing media studies and other non courses.
The above is what Weymouth should set their sights on, it won't be met but set sights high and then see what can be achieved.
Not .' lets spend some money on advertising old fashioned hotels and B&B' and achieve absolutely nothing. With a few more tourists their still won't be any decent jobs for the kids growing up. only drugs, part time jobs and unaffordable housing.
At last, someone realising the real issues and proposing solutions.

Who gives a **** about fairy lights etc...
d_a_m_n
[quote][p][bold]Caption Sensible[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]luffy22[/bold] wrote: Yet again the council has so missed the point, a few extra tourists won't fix the problem, there is no infrastructure, no jobs, all the buildings are old and run down, the town centre is a mess, fire station gone to be turned into an old peoples home!!! it should be made into a business area that attracts tourists and gives the locals something to do. The pavilion is a joke, JIM DAVIDSON some old comedian from the 80's.Moscow Ballet oh my god!!!!! is that the best they can do. They need the acts that have won the factor to be performing, that should be their target. The town centre needs knocking down and rebuilding, ok its old but its past its time, knock it down and build a brand new shopping centre, like Bristol did with the cabbot centre. The god awful hotels on the sea from need to knocked down and be replaced with modern hotels that offer style, hospitality and michelin star food, bring in the big conferences give Brighton and Bournemouth some competition not 150 year old rooms for OAP's Then get the roads sorted out, a motorway that runs between taunton and ringwood that touches on the north of dorchester so that people can get here and then back again. Knock down the pavilion and build an all weather leasure centre with ice skating, family swimming pools, chain restaurants, and a concert centre. Then get industry in so that their are jobs for people, science centres, aero space, office space for dot.com industries, make weymouth the silicone valley of the south. Build a university for medical and sciences, perhaps bring back the old teacher training college, careers that generate wealth remove the college doing media studies and other non courses. The above is what Weymouth should set their sights on, it won't be met but set sights high and then see what can be achieved. Not .' lets spend some money on advertising old fashioned hotels and B&B' and achieve absolutely nothing. With a few more tourists their still won't be any decent jobs for the kids growing up. only drugs, part time jobs and unaffordable housing.[/p][/quote]At last, someone realising the real issues and proposing solutions. Who gives a **** about fairy lights etc...[/p][/quote]d_a_m_n Caption Sensible
  • Score: 0

8:47am Sat 28 Jun 14

Caption Sensible says...

A 30 year regeneration and recovery plan is required for the area.

The area started losing its way in the early 80s and it accelerated when the navy moved out. A lack of confidence and a spiral of decline then set in.

Unfortunately there was not enough people of sufficient calibre and who held political office, who could arrest the decline.

A specialised development body needs to be set up and staffed with top professionals. A body which can identify the real issues, propose viable solutions and have the ability to raise the funds to see projects through.

A tough call I know but to do nothing is no longer an option.
A 30 year regeneration and recovery plan is required for the area. The area started losing its way in the early 80s and it accelerated when the navy moved out. A lack of confidence and a spiral of decline then set in. Unfortunately there was not enough people of sufficient calibre and who held political office, who could arrest the decline. A specialised development body needs to be set up and staffed with top professionals. A body which can identify the real issues, propose viable solutions and have the ability to raise the funds to see projects through. A tough call I know but to do nothing is no longer an option. Caption Sensible
  • Score: 8

10:00am Sat 28 Jun 14

rjimmer says...

Most people used to come by train from the Midlands, but now they travel by car and Weymouth Council are anti-car. The weekly car parking permits were in such small print in the car parks that most people never knew about them. West Dorset is known to be anti-caravan though-out the caravan fraternity. The M5 killed off a lot of Weymouth's holiday traffic. People get down to Bristol and just keep going to Devon, Somerset and Cornwall instead of negotiating the A37. Weymouth traffic is directed back to Yeovil from Taunton, it's about the same time-wise when traffic is light, but it doesn't look right on the map, being 20 miles longer. If roads were put in to enable Portland to be a busy container port, Weymouth would be better known.
Most people used to come by train from the Midlands, but now they travel by car and Weymouth Council are anti-car. The weekly car parking permits were in such small print in the car parks that most people never knew about them. West Dorset is known to be anti-caravan though-out the caravan fraternity. The M5 killed off a lot of Weymouth's holiday traffic. People get down to Bristol and just keep going to Devon, Somerset and Cornwall instead of negotiating the A37. Weymouth traffic is directed back to Yeovil from Taunton, it's about the same time-wise when traffic is light, but it doesn't look right on the map, being 20 miles longer. If roads were put in to enable Portland to be a busy container port, Weymouth would be better known. rjimmer
  • Score: 3

10:55am Sat 28 Jun 14

luffy22 says...

Rocksalt wrote:
luffy22 wrote:
Yet again the council has so missed the point, a few extra tourists won't fix the problem, there is no infrastructure, no jobs, all the buildings are old and run down, the town centre is a mess, fire station gone to be turned into an old peoples home!!! it should be made into a business area that attracts tourists and gives the locals something to do. The pavilion is a joke, JIM DAVIDSON some old comedian from the 80's.Moscow Ballet oh my god!!!!! is that the best they can do. They need the acts that have won the factor to be performing, that should be their target.
The town centre needs knocking down and rebuilding, ok its old but its past its time, knock it down and build a brand new shopping centre, like Bristol did with the cabbot centre. The god awful hotels on the sea from need to knocked down and be replaced with modern hotels that offer style, hospitality and michelin star food, bring in the big conferences give Brighton and Bournemouth some competition not 150 year old rooms for OAP's
Then get the roads sorted out, a motorway that runs between taunton and ringwood that touches on the north of dorchester so that people can get here and then back again. Knock down the pavilion and build an all weather leasure centre with ice skating, family swimming pools, chain restaurants, and a concert centre. Then get industry in so that their are jobs for people, science centres, aero space, office space for dot.com industries, make weymouth the silicone valley of the south. Build a university for medical and sciences, perhaps bring back the old teacher training college, careers that generate wealth remove the college doing media studies and other non courses.
The above is what Weymouth should set their sights on, it won't be met but set sights high and then see what can be achieved.
Not .' lets spend some money on advertising old fashioned hotels and B&B' and achieve absolutely nothing. With a few more tourists their still won't be any decent jobs for the kids growing up. only drugs, part time jobs and unaffordable housing.
I hardly know where to start with this, other than to wonder why you didn't demand that 'they' didn't find a cure for cancer and bring about world peace. I am all for ambition, but simp!y boshing out a wish list that would cost about £3 billion to create isn't entirely helpful. Where do you propose the money comes from ?
Really? is that what you really think? I agree it's mostly blue sky thinking, but you have to set your ambitions and set them high and then like someone else said put a 30 year plan in place.

To think, yeah lets have a TIC and all our problems will be solved is what has got Weymouth into this mess. If people are happy with that then they are part of the problem. It takes guts, leadership, vision and hard decisions. If you put in place a plan and that needs 30 billion, then you have a starting point, sell it, goto the money men in the world, goto bill gates and say we want to build a silicon valley and campus and be world class look at the amazing setting, look a the rest of our plans and ambitions. I think you will be surprised. When the ball starts rolling it will soon gather pace.

I know your next answer is go on then do it, well I can't as I am not a civic leader, I have a family and mortgage to pay for so I need to work at my job doing business analysis and helping one of the biggest companies in the world drive their business into the future. You want to pay my wages I will happily take it on.

But we entrust the elected leaders of our council to do this for us, but sadly all they have in mind is their NIMBY attitudes and easy lives.
[quote][p][bold]Rocksalt[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]luffy22[/bold] wrote: Yet again the council has so missed the point, a few extra tourists won't fix the problem, there is no infrastructure, no jobs, all the buildings are old and run down, the town centre is a mess, fire station gone to be turned into an old peoples home!!! it should be made into a business area that attracts tourists and gives the locals something to do. The pavilion is a joke, JIM DAVIDSON some old comedian from the 80's.Moscow Ballet oh my god!!!!! is that the best they can do. They need the acts that have won the factor to be performing, that should be their target. The town centre needs knocking down and rebuilding, ok its old but its past its time, knock it down and build a brand new shopping centre, like Bristol did with the cabbot centre. The god awful hotels on the sea from need to knocked down and be replaced with modern hotels that offer style, hospitality and michelin star food, bring in the big conferences give Brighton and Bournemouth some competition not 150 year old rooms for OAP's Then get the roads sorted out, a motorway that runs between taunton and ringwood that touches on the north of dorchester so that people can get here and then back again. Knock down the pavilion and build an all weather leasure centre with ice skating, family swimming pools, chain restaurants, and a concert centre. Then get industry in so that their are jobs for people, science centres, aero space, office space for dot.com industries, make weymouth the silicone valley of the south. Build a university for medical and sciences, perhaps bring back the old teacher training college, careers that generate wealth remove the college doing media studies and other non courses. The above is what Weymouth should set their sights on, it won't be met but set sights high and then see what can be achieved. Not .' lets spend some money on advertising old fashioned hotels and B&B' and achieve absolutely nothing. With a few more tourists their still won't be any decent jobs for the kids growing up. only drugs, part time jobs and unaffordable housing.[/p][/quote]I hardly know where to start with this, other than to wonder why you didn't demand that 'they' didn't find a cure for cancer and bring about world peace. I am all for ambition, but simp!y boshing out a wish list that would cost about £3 billion to create isn't entirely helpful. Where do you propose the money comes from ?[/p][/quote]Really? is that what you really think? I agree it's mostly blue sky thinking, but you have to set your ambitions and set them high and then like someone else said put a 30 year plan in place. To think, yeah lets have a TIC and all our problems will be solved is what has got Weymouth into this mess. If people are happy with that then they are part of the problem. It takes guts, leadership, vision and hard decisions. If you put in place a plan and that needs 30 billion, then you have a starting point, sell it, goto the money men in the world, goto bill gates and say we want to build a silicon valley and campus and be world class look at the amazing setting, look a the rest of our plans and ambitions. I think you will be surprised. When the ball starts rolling it will soon gather pace. I know your next answer is go on then do it, well I can't as I am not a civic leader, I have a family and mortgage to pay for so I need to work at my job doing business analysis and helping one of the biggest companies in the world drive their business into the future. You want to pay my wages I will happily take it on. But we entrust the elected leaders of our council to do this for us, but sadly all they have in mind is their NIMBY attitudes and easy lives. luffy22
  • Score: 0

11:59am Sat 28 Jun 14

Rocksalt says...

luffy22 wrote:
Rocksalt wrote:
luffy22 wrote:
Yet again the council has so missed the point, a few extra tourists won't fix the problem, there is no infrastructure, no jobs, all the buildings are old and run down, the town centre is a mess, fire station gone to be turned into an old peoples home!!! it should be made into a business area that attracts tourists and gives the locals something to do. The pavilion is a joke, JIM DAVIDSON some old comedian from the 80's.Moscow Ballet oh my god!!!!! is that the best they can do. They need the acts that have won the factor to be performing, that should be their target.
The town centre needs knocking down and rebuilding, ok its old but its past its time, knock it down and build a brand new shopping centre, like Bristol did with the cabbot centre. The god awful hotels on the sea from need to knocked down and be replaced with modern hotels that offer style, hospitality and michelin star food, bring in the big conferences give Brighton and Bournemouth some competition not 150 year old rooms for OAP's
Then get the roads sorted out, a motorway that runs between taunton and ringwood that touches on the north of dorchester so that people can get here and then back again. Knock down the pavilion and build an all weather leasure centre with ice skating, family swimming pools, chain restaurants, and a concert centre. Then get industry in so that their are jobs for people, science centres, aero space, office space for dot.com industries, make weymouth the silicone valley of the south. Build a university for medical and sciences, perhaps bring back the old teacher training college, careers that generate wealth remove the college doing media studies and other non courses.
The above is what Weymouth should set their sights on, it won't be met but set sights high and then see what can be achieved.
Not .' lets spend some money on advertising old fashioned hotels and B&B' and achieve absolutely nothing. With a few more tourists their still won't be any decent jobs for the kids growing up. only drugs, part time jobs and unaffordable housing.
I hardly know where to start with this, other than to wonder why you didn't demand that 'they' didn't find a cure for cancer and bring about world peace. I am all for ambition, but simp!y boshing out a wish list that would cost about £3 billion to create isn't entirely helpful. Where do you propose the money comes from ?
Really? is that what you really think? I agree it's mostly blue sky thinking, but you have to set your ambitions and set them high and then like someone else said put a 30 year plan in place.

To think, yeah lets have a TIC and all our problems will be solved is what has got Weymouth into this mess. If people are happy with that then they are part of the problem. It takes guts, leadership, vision and hard decisions. If you put in place a plan and that needs 30 billion, then you have a starting point, sell it, goto the money men in the world, goto bill gates and say we want to build a silicon valley and campus and be world class look at the amazing setting, look a the rest of our plans and ambitions. I think you will be surprised. When the ball starts rolling it will soon gather pace.

I know your next answer is go on then do it, well I can't as I am not a civic leader, I have a family and mortgage to pay for so I need to work at my job doing business analysis and helping one of the biggest companies in the world drive their business into the future. You want to pay my wages I will happily take it on.

But we entrust the elected leaders of our council to do this for us, but sadly all they have in mind is their NIMBY attitudes and easy lives.
If this is the level of your business analysis then probably as well you stick with your present employer. In all seriousness, whilst I agree that we need to be more ambitious than a focusnon traditional tourism, I can't see how one might pursuade anyone to invest billions .,For example, how exactly do you propose to attract aerospace industries,silicon valley type enterprises to an area that a) has no skilled workforce, b) no university to act as a hub for cutting edge enterprise (as per the Cambridge Science Park) and is frankly too small and remote to compete from scratch against far better placed towns and cities.
[quote][p][bold]luffy22[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rocksalt[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]luffy22[/bold] wrote: Yet again the council has so missed the point, a few extra tourists won't fix the problem, there is no infrastructure, no jobs, all the buildings are old and run down, the town centre is a mess, fire station gone to be turned into an old peoples home!!! it should be made into a business area that attracts tourists and gives the locals something to do. The pavilion is a joke, JIM DAVIDSON some old comedian from the 80's.Moscow Ballet oh my god!!!!! is that the best they can do. They need the acts that have won the factor to be performing, that should be their target. The town centre needs knocking down and rebuilding, ok its old but its past its time, knock it down and build a brand new shopping centre, like Bristol did with the cabbot centre. The god awful hotels on the sea from need to knocked down and be replaced with modern hotels that offer style, hospitality and michelin star food, bring in the big conferences give Brighton and Bournemouth some competition not 150 year old rooms for OAP's Then get the roads sorted out, a motorway that runs between taunton and ringwood that touches on the north of dorchester so that people can get here and then back again. Knock down the pavilion and build an all weather leasure centre with ice skating, family swimming pools, chain restaurants, and a concert centre. Then get industry in so that their are jobs for people, science centres, aero space, office space for dot.com industries, make weymouth the silicone valley of the south. Build a university for medical and sciences, perhaps bring back the old teacher training college, careers that generate wealth remove the college doing media studies and other non courses. The above is what Weymouth should set their sights on, it won't be met but set sights high and then see what can be achieved. Not .' lets spend some money on advertising old fashioned hotels and B&B' and achieve absolutely nothing. With a few more tourists their still won't be any decent jobs for the kids growing up. only drugs, part time jobs and unaffordable housing.[/p][/quote]I hardly know where to start with this, other than to wonder why you didn't demand that 'they' didn't find a cure for cancer and bring about world peace. I am all for ambition, but simp!y boshing out a wish list that would cost about £3 billion to create isn't entirely helpful. Where do you propose the money comes from ?[/p][/quote]Really? is that what you really think? I agree it's mostly blue sky thinking, but you have to set your ambitions and set them high and then like someone else said put a 30 year plan in place. To think, yeah lets have a TIC and all our problems will be solved is what has got Weymouth into this mess. If people are happy with that then they are part of the problem. It takes guts, leadership, vision and hard decisions. If you put in place a plan and that needs 30 billion, then you have a starting point, sell it, goto the money men in the world, goto bill gates and say we want to build a silicon valley and campus and be world class look at the amazing setting, look a the rest of our plans and ambitions. I think you will be surprised. When the ball starts rolling it will soon gather pace. I know your next answer is go on then do it, well I can't as I am not a civic leader, I have a family and mortgage to pay for so I need to work at my job doing business analysis and helping one of the biggest companies in the world drive their business into the future. You want to pay my wages I will happily take it on. But we entrust the elected leaders of our council to do this for us, but sadly all they have in mind is their NIMBY attitudes and easy lives.[/p][/quote]If this is the level of your business analysis then probably as well you stick with your present employer. In all seriousness, whilst I agree that we need to be more ambitious than a focusnon traditional tourism, I can't see how one might pursuade anyone to invest billions .,For example, how exactly do you propose to attract aerospace industries,silicon valley type enterprises to an area that a) has no skilled workforce, b) no university to act as a hub for cutting edge enterprise (as per the Cambridge Science Park) and is frankly too small and remote to compete from scratch against far better placed towns and cities. Rocksalt
  • Score: 2

3:05pm Sat 28 Jun 14

notweymouth says...

Rocksalt wrote:
luffy22 wrote:
Rocksalt wrote:
luffy22 wrote:
Yet again the council has so missed the point, a few extra tourists won't fix the problem, there is no infrastructure, no jobs, all the buildings are old and run down, the town centre is a mess, fire station gone to be turned into an old peoples home!!! it should be made into a business area that attracts tourists and gives the locals something to do. The pavilion is a joke, JIM DAVIDSON some old comedian from the 80's.Moscow Ballet oh my god!!!!! is that the best they can do. They need the acts that have won the factor to be performing, that should be their target.
The town centre needs knocking down and rebuilding, ok its old but its past its time, knock it down and build a brand new shopping centre, like Bristol did with the cabbot centre. The god awful hotels on the sea from need to knocked down and be replaced with modern hotels that offer style, hospitality and michelin star food, bring in the big conferences give Brighton and Bournemouth some competition not 150 year old rooms for OAP's
Then get the roads sorted out, a motorway that runs between taunton and ringwood that touches on the north of dorchester so that people can get here and then back again. Knock down the pavilion and build an all weather leasure centre with ice skating, family swimming pools, chain restaurants, and a concert centre. Then get industry in so that their are jobs for people, science centres, aero space, office space for dot.com industries, make weymouth the silicone valley of the south. Build a university for medical and sciences, perhaps bring back the old teacher training college, careers that generate wealth remove the college doing media studies and other non courses.
The above is what Weymouth should set their sights on, it won't be met but set sights high and then see what can be achieved.
Not .' lets spend some money on advertising old fashioned hotels and B&B' and achieve absolutely nothing. With a few more tourists their still won't be any decent jobs for the kids growing up. only drugs, part time jobs and unaffordable housing.
I hardly know where to start with this, other than to wonder why you didn't demand that 'they' didn't find a cure for cancer and bring about world peace. I am all for ambition, but simp!y boshing out a wish list that would cost about £3 billion to create isn't entirely helpful. Where do you propose the money comes from ?
Really? is that what you really think? I agree it's mostly blue sky thinking, but you have to set your ambitions and set them high and then like someone else said put a 30 year plan in place.

To think, yeah lets have a TIC and all our problems will be solved is what has got Weymouth into this mess. If people are happy with that then they are part of the problem. It takes guts, leadership, vision and hard decisions. If you put in place a plan and that needs 30 billion, then you have a starting point, sell it, goto the money men in the world, goto bill gates and say we want to build a silicon valley and campus and be world class look at the amazing setting, look a the rest of our plans and ambitions. I think you will be surprised. When the ball starts rolling it will soon gather pace.

I know your next answer is go on then do it, well I can't as I am not a civic leader, I have a family and mortgage to pay for so I need to work at my job doing business analysis and helping one of the biggest companies in the world drive their business into the future. You want to pay my wages I will happily take it on.

But we entrust the elected leaders of our council to do this for us, but sadly all they have in mind is their NIMBY attitudes and easy lives.
If this is the level of your business analysis then probably as well you stick with your present employer. In all seriousness, whilst I agree that we need to be more ambitious than a focusnon traditional tourism, I can't see how one might pursuade anyone to invest billions .,For example, how exactly do you propose to attract aerospace industries,silicon valley type enterprises to an area that a) has no skilled workforce, b) no university to act as a hub for cutting edge enterprise (as per the Cambridge Science Park) and is frankly too small and remote to compete from scratch against far better placed towns and cities.
There is a skilled workforce locally, it's just that the jobs aren't local. I choose to live in this stunning part of the world and I would jump at the chance to work in the area and not have to commute to the London every week to make decent money!
[quote][p][bold]Rocksalt[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]luffy22[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rocksalt[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]luffy22[/bold] wrote: Yet again the council has so missed the point, a few extra tourists won't fix the problem, there is no infrastructure, no jobs, all the buildings are old and run down, the town centre is a mess, fire station gone to be turned into an old peoples home!!! it should be made into a business area that attracts tourists and gives the locals something to do. The pavilion is a joke, JIM DAVIDSON some old comedian from the 80's.Moscow Ballet oh my god!!!!! is that the best they can do. They need the acts that have won the factor to be performing, that should be their target. The town centre needs knocking down and rebuilding, ok its old but its past its time, knock it down and build a brand new shopping centre, like Bristol did with the cabbot centre. The god awful hotels on the sea from need to knocked down and be replaced with modern hotels that offer style, hospitality and michelin star food, bring in the big conferences give Brighton and Bournemouth some competition not 150 year old rooms for OAP's Then get the roads sorted out, a motorway that runs between taunton and ringwood that touches on the north of dorchester so that people can get here and then back again. Knock down the pavilion and build an all weather leasure centre with ice skating, family swimming pools, chain restaurants, and a concert centre. Then get industry in so that their are jobs for people, science centres, aero space, office space for dot.com industries, make weymouth the silicone valley of the south. Build a university for medical and sciences, perhaps bring back the old teacher training college, careers that generate wealth remove the college doing media studies and other non courses. The above is what Weymouth should set their sights on, it won't be met but set sights high and then see what can be achieved. Not .' lets spend some money on advertising old fashioned hotels and B&B' and achieve absolutely nothing. With a few more tourists their still won't be any decent jobs for the kids growing up. only drugs, part time jobs and unaffordable housing.[/p][/quote]I hardly know where to start with this, other than to wonder why you didn't demand that 'they' didn't find a cure for cancer and bring about world peace. I am all for ambition, but simp!y boshing out a wish list that would cost about £3 billion to create isn't entirely helpful. Where do you propose the money comes from ?[/p][/quote]Really? is that what you really think? I agree it's mostly blue sky thinking, but you have to set your ambitions and set them high and then like someone else said put a 30 year plan in place. To think, yeah lets have a TIC and all our problems will be solved is what has got Weymouth into this mess. If people are happy with that then they are part of the problem. It takes guts, leadership, vision and hard decisions. If you put in place a plan and that needs 30 billion, then you have a starting point, sell it, goto the money men in the world, goto bill gates and say we want to build a silicon valley and campus and be world class look at the amazing setting, look a the rest of our plans and ambitions. I think you will be surprised. When the ball starts rolling it will soon gather pace. I know your next answer is go on then do it, well I can't as I am not a civic leader, I have a family and mortgage to pay for so I need to work at my job doing business analysis and helping one of the biggest companies in the world drive their business into the future. You want to pay my wages I will happily take it on. But we entrust the elected leaders of our council to do this for us, but sadly all they have in mind is their NIMBY attitudes and easy lives.[/p][/quote]If this is the level of your business analysis then probably as well you stick with your present employer. In all seriousness, whilst I agree that we need to be more ambitious than a focusnon traditional tourism, I can't see how one might pursuade anyone to invest billions .,For example, how exactly do you propose to attract aerospace industries,silicon valley type enterprises to an area that a) has no skilled workforce, b) no university to act as a hub for cutting edge enterprise (as per the Cambridge Science Park) and is frankly too small and remote to compete from scratch against far better placed towns and cities.[/p][/quote]There is a skilled workforce locally, it's just that the jobs aren't local. I choose to live in this stunning part of the world and I would jump at the chance to work in the area and not have to commute to the London every week to make decent money! notweymouth
  • Score: 0

5:38pm Sat 28 Jun 14

Speak Up1 says...

I am facing possible redundancy this year and my partner next year - if it happens there is nothing in this town for us...that's the simple truth. The Council has always put the tourists first...so we will be moving away for work and probably never come back given the house prices down here compared to elsewhere and lack of employment opportunities.

If the jobs aren't here then the people who have to pay mortgages etc and need a career instead of a part time/seasonal job will simply leave the town to the second homers and the retired.

The Council's attention should be providing for the local people they serve - not just attracting more tourists for the Hoteliers and other businesses. The balance and focus is all wrong at the moment and the only thing that grabs the attention in this town is the initiatives based on attracting more tourists....as if that will solve all our problems - it won't and hasn't.

As for the Olympic Legacy - I see none, except a truly annoying road system that I personally hate so much I shop elsewhere rather than drive into town - so the councils anti car attitude works....
I am facing possible redundancy this year and my partner next year - if it happens there is nothing in this town for us...that's the simple truth. The Council has always put the tourists first...so we will be moving away for work and probably never come back given the house prices down here compared to elsewhere and lack of employment opportunities. If the jobs aren't here then the people who have to pay mortgages etc and need a career instead of a part time/seasonal job will simply leave the town to the second homers and the retired. The Council's attention should be providing for the local people they serve - not just attracting more tourists for the Hoteliers and other businesses. The balance and focus is all wrong at the moment and the only thing that grabs the attention in this town is the initiatives based on attracting more tourists....as if that will solve all our problems - it won't and hasn't. As for the Olympic Legacy - I see none, except a truly annoying road system that I personally hate so much I shop elsewhere rather than drive into town - so the councils anti car attitude works.... Speak Up1
  • Score: 1

6:06pm Sat 28 Jun 14

bigfatlad says...

Just an observation - rising sea levels are likely to wipe out Weymouth beach in the next 10 to 20 years. Does any development plan take this into account?
Just an observation - rising sea levels are likely to wipe out Weymouth beach in the next 10 to 20 years. Does any development plan take this into account? bigfatlad
  • Score: -4

7:16pm Sat 28 Jun 14

Rocksalt says...

notweymouth wrote:
Rocksalt wrote:
luffy22 wrote:
Rocksalt wrote:
luffy22 wrote:
Yet again the council has so missed the point, a few extra tourists won't fix the problem, there is no infrastructure, no jobs, all the buildings are old and run down, the town centre is a mess, fire station gone to be turned into an old peoples home!!! it should be made into a business area that attracts tourists and gives the locals something to do. The pavilion is a joke, JIM DAVIDSON some old comedian from the 80's.Moscow Ballet oh my god!!!!! is that the best they can do. They need the acts that have won the factor to be performing, that should be their target.
The town centre needs knocking down and rebuilding, ok its old but its past its time, knock it down and build a brand new shopping centre, like Bristol did with the cabbot centre. The god awful hotels on the sea from need to knocked down and be replaced with modern hotels that offer style, hospitality and michelin star food, bring in the big conferences give Brighton and Bournemouth some competition not 150 year old rooms for OAP's
Then get the roads sorted out, a motorway that runs between taunton and ringwood that touches on the north of dorchester so that people can get here and then back again. Knock down the pavilion and build an all weather leasure centre with ice skating, family swimming pools, chain restaurants, and a concert centre. Then get industry in so that their are jobs for people, science centres, aero space, office space for dot.com industries, make weymouth the silicone valley of the south. Build a university for medical and sciences, perhaps bring back the old teacher training college, careers that generate wealth remove the college doing media studies and other non courses.
The above is what Weymouth should set their sights on, it won't be met but set sights high and then see what can be achieved.
Not .' lets spend some money on advertising old fashioned hotels and B&B' and achieve absolutely nothing. With a few more tourists their still won't be any decent jobs for the kids growing up. only drugs, part time jobs and unaffordable housing.
I hardly know where to start with this, other than to wonder why you didn't demand that 'they' didn't find a cure for cancer and bring about world peace. I am all for ambition, but simp!y boshing out a wish list that would cost about £3 billion to create isn't entirely helpful. Where do you propose the money comes from ?
Really? is that what you really think? I agree it's mostly blue sky thinking, but you have to set your ambitions and set them high and then like someone else said put a 30 year plan in place.

To think, yeah lets have a TIC and all our problems will be solved is what has got Weymouth into this mess. If people are happy with that then they are part of the problem. It takes guts, leadership, vision and hard decisions. If you put in place a plan and that needs 30 billion, then you have a starting point, sell it, goto the money men in the world, goto bill gates and say we want to build a silicon valley and campus and be world class look at the amazing setting, look a the rest of our plans and ambitions. I think you will be surprised. When the ball starts rolling it will soon gather pace.

I know your next answer is go on then do it, well I can't as I am not a civic leader, I have a family and mortgage to pay for so I need to work at my job doing business analysis and helping one of the biggest companies in the world drive their business into the future. You want to pay my wages I will happily take it on.

But we entrust the elected leaders of our council to do this for us, but sadly all they have in mind is their NIMBY attitudes and easy lives.
If this is the level of your business analysis then probably as well you stick with your present employer. In all seriousness, whilst I agree that we need to be more ambitious than a focusnon traditional tourism, I can't see how one might pursuade anyone to invest billions .,For example, how exactly do you propose to attract aerospace industries,silicon valley type enterprises to an area that a) has no skilled workforce, b) no university to act as a hub for cutting edge enterprise (as per the Cambridge Science Park) and is frankly too small and remote to compete from scratch against far better placed towns and cities.
There is a skilled workforce locally, it's just that the jobs aren't local. I choose to live in this stunning part of the world and I would jump at the chance to work in the area and not have to commute to the London every week to make decent money!
Skilled they may be, but in aerospace or the other hi-tech sciences ? I doubt it somehow, but happy to be proved wrong.
[quote][p][bold]notweymouth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rocksalt[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]luffy22[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rocksalt[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]luffy22[/bold] wrote: Yet again the council has so missed the point, a few extra tourists won't fix the problem, there is no infrastructure, no jobs, all the buildings are old and run down, the town centre is a mess, fire station gone to be turned into an old peoples home!!! it should be made into a business area that attracts tourists and gives the locals something to do. The pavilion is a joke, JIM DAVIDSON some old comedian from the 80's.Moscow Ballet oh my god!!!!! is that the best they can do. They need the acts that have won the factor to be performing, that should be their target. The town centre needs knocking down and rebuilding, ok its old but its past its time, knock it down and build a brand new shopping centre, like Bristol did with the cabbot centre. The god awful hotels on the sea from need to knocked down and be replaced with modern hotels that offer style, hospitality and michelin star food, bring in the big conferences give Brighton and Bournemouth some competition not 150 year old rooms for OAP's Then get the roads sorted out, a motorway that runs between taunton and ringwood that touches on the north of dorchester so that people can get here and then back again. Knock down the pavilion and build an all weather leasure centre with ice skating, family swimming pools, chain restaurants, and a concert centre. Then get industry in so that their are jobs for people, science centres, aero space, office space for dot.com industries, make weymouth the silicone valley of the south. Build a university for medical and sciences, perhaps bring back the old teacher training college, careers that generate wealth remove the college doing media studies and other non courses. The above is what Weymouth should set their sights on, it won't be met but set sights high and then see what can be achieved. Not .' lets spend some money on advertising old fashioned hotels and B&B' and achieve absolutely nothing. With a few more tourists their still won't be any decent jobs for the kids growing up. only drugs, part time jobs and unaffordable housing.[/p][/quote]I hardly know where to start with this, other than to wonder why you didn't demand that 'they' didn't find a cure for cancer and bring about world peace. I am all for ambition, but simp!y boshing out a wish list that would cost about £3 billion to create isn't entirely helpful. Where do you propose the money comes from ?[/p][/quote]Really? is that what you really think? I agree it's mostly blue sky thinking, but you have to set your ambitions and set them high and then like someone else said put a 30 year plan in place. To think, yeah lets have a TIC and all our problems will be solved is what has got Weymouth into this mess. If people are happy with that then they are part of the problem. It takes guts, leadership, vision and hard decisions. If you put in place a plan and that needs 30 billion, then you have a starting point, sell it, goto the money men in the world, goto bill gates and say we want to build a silicon valley and campus and be world class look at the amazing setting, look a the rest of our plans and ambitions. I think you will be surprised. When the ball starts rolling it will soon gather pace. I know your next answer is go on then do it, well I can't as I am not a civic leader, I have a family and mortgage to pay for so I need to work at my job doing business analysis and helping one of the biggest companies in the world drive their business into the future. You want to pay my wages I will happily take it on. But we entrust the elected leaders of our council to do this for us, but sadly all they have in mind is their NIMBY attitudes and easy lives.[/p][/quote]If this is the level of your business analysis then probably as well you stick with your present employer. In all seriousness, whilst I agree that we need to be more ambitious than a focusnon traditional tourism, I can't see how one might pursuade anyone to invest billions .,For example, how exactly do you propose to attract aerospace industries,silicon valley type enterprises to an area that a) has no skilled workforce, b) no university to act as a hub for cutting edge enterprise (as per the Cambridge Science Park) and is frankly too small and remote to compete from scratch against far better placed towns and cities.[/p][/quote]There is a skilled workforce locally, it's just that the jobs aren't local. I choose to live in this stunning part of the world and I would jump at the chance to work in the area and not have to commute to the London every week to make decent money![/p][/quote]Skilled they may be, but in aerospace or the other hi-tech sciences ? I doubt it somehow, but happy to be proved wrong. Rocksalt
  • Score: 1

8:29pm Sat 28 Jun 14

Caption Sensible says...

bigfatlad wrote:
Just an observation - rising sea levels are likely to wipe out Weymouth beach in the next 10 to 20 years. Does any development plan take this into account?
Don't talk such rubbish!

Green-washed or what!
[quote][p][bold]bigfatlad[/bold] wrote: Just an observation - rising sea levels are likely to wipe out Weymouth beach in the next 10 to 20 years. Does any development plan take this into account?[/p][/quote]Don't talk such rubbish! Green-washed or what! Caption Sensible
  • Score: 7

9:09am Sun 29 Jun 14

Simon Nicholas says...

ksmain wrote:
Simon Nicholas wrote:
codlips wrote:
MrTomSmith wrote:
monkeydog wrote:
MrTomSmith wrote:
Simon 1965 wrote:
nomadengland wrote:
islandman wrote: But why is the Pavilion still displaying a huge advert for LAST years pantomime ??????
I see the Pavilion has now changed this. Surely one of the biggest problems here in Weymouth is no Tourist Information Centre!! We have been to many towns in Wales over the past few weeks and every one (even small towns) have a really good TIC. Why was ours ever removed from the prominent and central place on the seafront. I know the Pavilion has information now, but this is a long way out of town for people getting off of coaches, staying in hotels etc. and no way compensates for a proper TIC where details of B&B bookings, camp sites, cycle routes, walking routes, bus and train times, etc., can be found.
Closure of TIC`s is now happening all over the UK- there are none in the Isle of Wight anymore.and here locally in Barry Island, the TIC has closed as well.

Simon N.
One of the WORST decisions WPBC have ever made and you are still defending it..............you are incredible.
You need to calm down. He was simply stating a fact. I dare say he thinks it's a daft decision.
Codlips that was amazing, you have worked out I need to be calmed down, when I am very laid back believe me, and not only that defended Simon N which is fair enough, but, you have done it by making up what you THINK are his thoughts! Thats even more incredible. Well done.

Be very interested to see if Simon N comes back and say's it was a daft decision. very interesting indeed, glad you raised the idea Codlips.
I think your quoting the wrong person Tom, I said nothing about you calming down.
This is fun, its not often I cause so much aggrevation on a web-site!

For the record..............


...
Yes, I was merely stating a fact about TICs - very few local authorities have any spare cash, and closing these things is a quck financial win at the end of the day - for what its worth I think they will be very scarce everywhere in years to come.

Do I think it was a daft decsion to close the Weymouth one? thats a hard one to answer as I would prefer it to still be there - I always enjoy going into TICs, and the one by the Kings Statue was nice, although a bit cramped at times - perfect location as well.

However , with my realists hat on, what exactly do they do there that is relevant in the year 2014 - people book accommodation more and more on line, you can get coach tickets at the Post Office (although even here, NX have been quoted in saying recently that growth in their internet bookings continue to increase at a fantastic rate), and you can get tourist leaflets and bus timetables at various places in the town.

What they are however are "comfort blankets" that people traditionally expect to see in a tourist town - somewhere to go for advice on anything and everything, and I for one are saddened to see them being wiped out, although fully understanding the reasons why.

Maybe Condor can be persuaded to include a TIC as part of their proposed new passenger terminal near Berth 1!

Cheers
Simon N.
Perhaps you need the TIC to tell you where the Post Office is in Weymouth so they can book their coach tickets? I would certainly miss it easily in it's current location. You are also presuming everyone uses the Internet - not everyone does (and that includes the young).

I do think closing the TIC in Weymouth was a short-sighted move by the Council - not only was it in a good visible location, but I believe you should use every weapon in your arsenal to attract holidaymakers to/back to the resort.
I don`t understand this argument - if you are local and needed NX tickets, you would know where the post office was - If you are a holidaymaker however, and used NX to travel to and from Dorset, you would have bought your NX tickets in your home town.

Simon N.
[quote][p][bold]ksmain[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Simon Nicholas[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]codlips[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MrTomSmith[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]monkeydog[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MrTomSmith[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Simon 1965[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nomadengland[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]islandman[/bold] wrote: But why is the Pavilion still displaying a huge advert for LAST years pantomime ??????[/p][/quote]I see the Pavilion has now changed this. Surely one of the biggest problems here in Weymouth is no Tourist Information Centre!! We have been to many towns in Wales over the past few weeks and every one (even small towns) have a really good TIC. Why was ours ever removed from the prominent and central place on the seafront. I know the Pavilion has information now, but this is a long way out of town for people getting off of coaches, staying in hotels etc. and no way compensates for a proper TIC where details of B&B bookings, camp sites, cycle routes, walking routes, bus and train times, etc., can be found.[/p][/quote]Closure of TIC`s is now happening all over the UK- there are none in the Isle of Wight anymore.and here locally in Barry Island, the TIC has closed as well. Simon N.[/p][/quote]One of the WORST decisions WPBC have ever made and you are still defending it..............you are incredible.[/p][/quote]You need to calm down. He was simply stating a fact. I dare say he thinks it's a daft decision.[/p][/quote]Codlips that was amazing, you have worked out I need to be calmed down, when I am very laid back believe me, and not only that defended Simon N which is fair enough, but, you have done it by making up what you THINK are his thoughts! Thats even more incredible. Well done. Be very interested to see if Simon N comes back and say's it was a daft decision. very interesting indeed, glad you raised the idea Codlips.[/p][/quote]I think your quoting the wrong person Tom, I said nothing about you calming down.[/p][/quote]This is fun, its not often I cause so much aggrevation on a web-site! For the record.............. ... Yes, I was merely stating a fact about TICs - very few local authorities have any spare cash, and closing these things is a quck financial win at the end of the day - for what its worth I think they will be very scarce everywhere in years to come. Do I think it was a daft decsion to close the Weymouth one? thats a hard one to answer as I would prefer it to still be there - I always enjoy going into TICs, and the one by the Kings Statue was nice, although a bit cramped at times - perfect location as well. However , with my realists hat on, what exactly do they do there that is relevant in the year 2014 - people book accommodation more and more on line, you can get coach tickets at the Post Office (although even here, NX have been quoted in saying recently that growth in their internet bookings continue to increase at a fantastic rate), and you can get tourist leaflets and bus timetables at various places in the town. What they are however are "comfort blankets" that people traditionally expect to see in a tourist town - somewhere to go for advice on anything and everything, and I for one are saddened to see them being wiped out, although fully understanding the reasons why. Maybe Condor can be persuaded to include a TIC as part of their proposed new passenger terminal near Berth 1! Cheers Simon N.[/p][/quote]Perhaps you need the TIC to tell you where the Post Office is in Weymouth so they can book their coach tickets? I would certainly miss it easily in it's current location. You are also presuming everyone uses the Internet - not everyone does (and that includes the young). I do think closing the TIC in Weymouth was a short-sighted move by the Council - not only was it in a good visible location, but I believe you should use every weapon in your arsenal to attract holidaymakers to/back to the resort.[/p][/quote]I don`t understand this argument - if you are local and needed NX tickets, you would know where the post office was - If you are a holidaymaker however, and used NX to travel to and from Dorset, you would have bought your NX tickets in your home town. Simon N. Simon Nicholas
  • Score: 1

6:54am Mon 30 Jun 14

islandman says...

and finally. When I mentioned that the Pavilion was still advertising last years pantomime on the side of the building, I was corrected by someone and told it had gone, I apologised. HUH!, THEY were wrong, it is still there so my comment still stands.
and finally. When I mentioned that the Pavilion was still advertising last years pantomime on the side of the building, I was corrected by someone and told it had gone, I apologised. HUH!, THEY were wrong, it is still there so my comment still stands. islandman
  • Score: -1

8:40am Mon 30 Jun 14

MaidofDorset says...

Weymouth reminds me of going to view an old house which the estate agent has listed as 'do-er upper, lots of original features'. You open the door, see lovely spacious rooms, big garden, nice staircase, would be a fantastic home if only you had the cash to sort out. the leaky roof, and all the rest.

And that embarrassing moment when a visitor asks directions to the Tourist information centre.....
Weymouth reminds me of going to view an old house which the estate agent has listed as 'do-er upper, lots of original features'. You open the door, see lovely spacious rooms, big garden, nice staircase, would be a fantastic home if only you had the cash to sort out. the leaky roof, and all the rest. And that embarrassing moment when a visitor asks directions to the Tourist information centre..... MaidofDorset
  • Score: 0

12:18pm Mon 30 Jun 14

Chris S B says...

The profile of the area is not helped by the on-going campaign by the Echo to run the area down. It did the same throughout the Olympics and enjoys the sales it gets from continually being cynical and self-serving. It's so easy for a rag with no competition to be continually negative - what contribution is it making to this area? Nothing of value.
The profile of the area is not helped by the on-going campaign by the Echo to run the area down. It did the same throughout the Olympics and enjoys the sales it gets from continually being cynical and self-serving. It's so easy for a rag with no competition to be continually negative - what contribution is it making to this area? Nothing of value. Chris S B
  • Score: 3

3:03pm Mon 30 Jun 14

elloello1980 says...

MrTomSmith... lol
MrTomSmith... lol elloello1980
  • Score: 1

12:59pm Tue 1 Jul 14

Bob Goulding says...

Dorset Voyager wrote:
A quote from The Daily Echo.."POOLE Harbour Commissioners’ proposals to modernise the commercial port have been submitted to the Marine Management Organisation.

The first phase of an £11million improvement project is for a new deep water quay within the commercial port, designed to accommodate a wide range of vessels".

Could this be what Condor were waiting for? I hope not.
Condor's proposed new ship does not need a deep water quay just a differently configured RO-RO ramp. It would cost Condor Ferries an additional £1,000,000+ per annum to operate the new ship from Poole. They are simply hoping that Weymouth will foot the bill and are using the threat of the Poole 'non-option' as a cheap negotiating ploy. Don't give in W&PBC. Call Condor's bluff and make them pay a sensible contribution towards the cost of upgrading of berth 1.
[quote][p][bold]Dorset Voyager[/bold] wrote: A quote from The Daily Echo.."POOLE Harbour Commissioners’ proposals to modernise the commercial port have been submitted to the Marine Management Organisation. The first phase of an £11million improvement project is for a new deep water quay within the commercial port, designed to accommodate a wide range of vessels". Could this be what Condor were waiting for? I hope not.[/p][/quote]Condor's proposed new ship does not need a deep water quay just a differently configured RO-RO ramp. It would cost Condor Ferries an additional £1,000,000+ per annum to operate the new ship from Poole. They are simply hoping that Weymouth will foot the bill and are using the threat of the Poole 'non-option' as a cheap negotiating ploy. Don't give in W&PBC. Call Condor's bluff and make them pay a sensible contribution towards the cost of upgrading of berth 1. Bob Goulding
  • Score: 0

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