In Depth: the eight new potential gypsy and traveller sites under consideration in Dorset

In Depth: the eight new potential gypsy and traveller sites under consideration in Dorset

In Depth: the eight new potential gypsy and traveller sites under consideration in Dorset

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Dorset County Council has added eight sites to those being considered as potential gyspy and traveller sites.

Why are these sites being added to those under consideration?

In a report in September, the council's consultants said there were 150 new pitches needed between now and 2028.

There are 29 households already on the waiting list for a space on a public pitch, with another 59 households either homeless (usually in council housing) living in another household (caravan) or in an authorised encampment.  The consultants estimate by 2028 another 63 households will need a pitch, along with the seven living on sites with temporary planning permission.

The report also identified a particular need for sites for travelling showpeople. These are measured in terms of plots, which has both residential and business uses and allows for the storage and repair of fairground equipment.

Gypsy and traveller sites are measured by in pitches - an area of land where a Gypsy or Traveller household can reside. Typically, this may have a building, parking space and one or more caravans, with sufficient space so that caravans up to 20 metres in length can be moved around.

These sites were all suggested for consideration by respondents to the DCCs initial list of potential sites.

You can see the full consultation leaflet here

Conygar Coppice, Okeford Fitzpaine 

This site, owned by Dorset County Council,  is already in use as an unauthorised traveller site. Formerly a landfill site, there are question marks over whether the site is suitable for residential use and how much it might cost to make it safe if not. It was first suggested as a potential site in 2004. If authorised, there would be 15 pitches for New Travellers.

 

Redundant Army Camp, Wyke Regis

Dorset Echo:

This former army camp would be used for six pitches for Romany Gypsy or Irish Travellers.

This is a privately-owned former army camp on a sloping site with areas of open land interspersed with various low quality buildings, roadways and hard standings. The northern boundary adjoins the western edge of Wyke Regis.

Access is good although the council says some junction adjustments will be required at Camp Road/Mandeville Road. Some buildings would need to be demolished and landscaping would be required. 

 

 

Former Guard House, Piddlehinton

Dorset Echo:

Picture by Mike Smith, licensed with Creative Commons

Piddlehinton already has a temporary traveller camp which is being considered for permanent permission (see below), but this site, between the industrial estate and the B3143, is being considered for seven pitches for Romany gypsies or travelling showpeople. However the sloping nature means it might not be suitable for Travelling Showpeople. 

 

Land at Piddlehinton Industrial Estate, Piddlehinton

Dorset Echo:

This site already has temporary permission for 25 pitches as a summer transit site but is being considered appropriate for limited permanent development. It would have six pitches for Romany Gypsy, Irish Traveller or Travelling Showpeople, but works to make a suitable entrance  may make the site unviable. 

 

Old Chapel Yard, Marshwood 

This is already used by Travelling Showpeople to store equipment, despite being in AONB next to a Grade 2 listed building. It is being considered for one plot for residential Travelling Showpeople use.

 

By the Ford, Sandford Orcas

This is an existing traveller site comprising a residential log style static caravan, outbuildings and pasture land, close to the village of Sandford Orcas. The council does not intend to increase the number of travellers here, but legitimise the existing occupant, who already has temporary planning permission.

 

Former highway north of B Road, West of West Stafford

This is a County Council owned site which they believe could house two traveller pitches. It's a former road which is already home to a group of caravans. 

 

Land at Wigbeth Farm, Horton

The first of two Green Belt sites on the list, the council says it would restrict use to the summer months but suggests it would be suitable for 12 pitches for gypsies and travellers. The private-owned field, which has been put forward by the landowner, is next to a woodland Site of Nature Conservation Interest but council officers says this could be "managed by good site design". Access to local sevrices and bus routes is described as not good.

 

Land at Crumpets Drive


Being considered for one pitch for Gypsies and Travellers, this green belt site is among a clump of mature trees. But access is considered "sub-standard" and it could be expensive to buy the land needed to improve it.

 

 

Comments have been opened on this story but please note: any reference to gypsies or any racially offensive term will cause them to be closed and you may find your account suspended. Romany Gypsies and Irish Travellers are legally recognised as ethnic groups, and protected by the Race Relations Act. Please keep your comments to this particular incident and do not generalise. Thanks for your co-operation.

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1:19pm Mon 21 Jul 14

sweetdreamgirl says...

Why do people who are nomads not interested in being part of any community other than their own kind,live in caravans which are made for e purpose of moving around want to be on a waiting list for permanent site? Will they pay water rates council taxes etc? I bet not.Again one law for them and canoer for us
Why do people who are nomads not interested in being part of any community other than their own kind,live in caravans which are made for e purpose of moving around want to be on a waiting list for permanent site? Will they pay water rates council taxes etc? I bet not.Again one law for them and canoer for us sweetdreamgirl
  • Score: 18

1:21pm Mon 21 Jul 14

JackJohnson says...

Any chance of a link to the full consultation document that WORKS?
Any chance of a link to the full consultation document that WORKS? JackJohnson
  • Score: 11

1:21pm Mon 21 Jul 14

sweetdreamgirl says...

That went off too soon, it should have read one law for them and another for us,and have a guess who will be paying for these sites to be made habitable,yup you got in one US.
That went off too soon, it should have read one law for them and another for us,and have a guess who will be paying for these sites to be made habitable,yup you got in one US. sweetdreamgirl
  • Score: 11

1:51pm Mon 21 Jul 14

Dorset69 says...

How about housing the homeless who contribute something to society and dont thieve from decent folk
How about housing the homeless who contribute something to society and dont thieve from decent folk Dorset69
  • Score: 21

4:08pm Mon 21 Jul 14

Antsarah says...

How is this so, The old army camp sit was turn down for a a big caravan sit due to lack of access from roads ???????????
How is this so, The old army camp sit was turn down for a a big caravan sit due to lack of access from roads ??????????? Antsarah
  • Score: 4

7:34pm Mon 21 Jul 14

tango1001 says...

unbelievable, the council should grow a set of **** and just stand up and tell them to 'do one'. the travellers are no good for local buisnesses, they steal, have no care for anybody in any authority and dont care about local people!

why should these freeloaders get beautiful areas of land to set up there caravans on a permanent basis! they are travellers, let them travel (preferably away from dorset). The local population should not have to pay for these sites when we cant get things for our own community like regular buses to the estates, affordable housing, community projects that help local people.

I have worked security for 10 years and not met one traveller who has kept to his/her word to either leave no mess, pay their way, or leave when they were asked! they are mouthy bullies who will use the rest of the travelling community to gang up on those who stand up to them!.

to summerise - the council need some balls and the travellers need to DO ONE!
unbelievable, the council should grow a set of **** and just stand up and tell them to 'do one'. the travellers are no good for local buisnesses, they steal, have no care for anybody in any authority and dont care about local people! why should these freeloaders get beautiful areas of land to set up there caravans on a permanent basis! they are travellers, let them travel (preferably away from dorset). The local population should not have to pay for these sites when we cant get things for our own community like regular buses to the estates, affordable housing, community projects that help local people. I have worked security for 10 years and not met one traveller who has kept to his/her word to either leave no mess, pay their way, or leave when they were asked! they are mouthy bullies who will use the rest of the travelling community to gang up on those who stand up to them!. to summerise - the council need some balls and the travellers need to DO ONE! tango1001
  • Score: 12

9:05pm Mon 21 Jul 14

TenBobDylanThomasHardy says...

Sweetdreamgirl (and others I suspect) Yes, they will pay Council Tax, water rates, ground rent etc. One would like to think that, through charges, such schemes could be self-funding. (Doubtful though!)
Sweetdreamgirl (and others I suspect) Yes, they will pay Council Tax, water rates, ground rent etc. One would like to think that, through charges, such schemes could be self-funding. (Doubtful though!) TenBobDylanThomasHardy
  • Score: -4

9:19am Tue 22 Jul 14

cosmick says...

Its time you the rate payers grew some and stood up and said NO! Some Other E/U countrys only allow the race of travellers, none of the other have rights to sites.
Its time you the rate payers grew some and stood up and said NO! Some Other E/U countrys only allow the race of travellers, none of the other have rights to sites. cosmick
  • Score: 5

10:17am Sat 26 Jul 14

MMM444 says...

Forget it, they want to be next to a beach, there travellers, and enjoy all the cat and mouse mayhem
Forget it, they want to be next to a beach, there travellers, and enjoy all the cat and mouse mayhem MMM444
  • Score: 4

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