Plans for £15million Brewers Quay revamp revealed

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PLANS for a £15million overhaul of Weymouth’s Brewers Quay, including an 85-bed hotel and wet weather attraction, have been revealed.

The applicants hope to have planning permission for the revamp by January and to have finished the work in time for the Olympics.

But leaseholders fear revised rents at the remodelled attraction could be too high for them and many expect they will have to relocate.

Nikki Davies of printers Wowz on Canvas, who has been there for two and a half years, said: “Anything that develops the area is going to be a good thing but I think it’s really important to keep something that’s unique to Weymouth and that has a mix of smaller businesses like mine and larger ones who pay reasonable rents in this tourist area.

“If the place is going to be out-priced so that only high street traders can afford to come here that won’t be good as far as I’m concerned.”

Colin Cole of the Art Corner, who has been at the quay for seven months, said: “Everything’s up in the air and we’re only hearing bits and bobs at the moment.

“At the moment, I’ve been told I’ve got to be out by December 31.

“I’m not happy about it and I’ve got to find a new location.

“There’s a lot of uncertainty at the moment.”

Dave Evans, who owns a business carving wooden jigsaws and names, said: “Soon there’ll be nowhere in Weymouth with low-cost rents.

“In respect of Brewers Quay being revamped I’m ambivalent about it and it’s probably gong to be a building site during the Olympics and that won’t benefit everyone.

“I’ll probably look for another town to trade from.

“I don’t need to be in Weymouth if it wants to kill itself.”

Brewers Quay partner Chris McDougall said: “We’re in discussions with two hotel operators at the moment but we haven’t agreed terms with anyone.

“We should have more news on that in the new year.

“If we’re lucky enough to get planning permission approved in January then we’re going to look to get the work done in 12 to 15 months.

“We plan to have the work done for the Olympics but we’re pushing that deadline and we wouldn’t want to have a building full of scaffolding while the Games are on.”

He added: “Every existing tenant will be offered a place and will have the first refusal.

“The commercial reality is that some of them probably won’t be able to afford the rents but some of them will.

“The rents will not be that much higher than they are now.

“I’ve tried to tell the existing tenants that they will all be welcome back.

“Brewers Quay is ripe for development and there’s been a lot of investment in Weymouth recently.”

Mr McDougall denied that discussions are going on to introduce a Tesco Express store at the site.

The Brewers Quay plans

THE plans for the site include a revamp of Weymouth museum with a new layout featuring a ‘chronological presentation’ on the area’s history.

Brewers Quay also wants to create a 125sq metre display space and a 171sq metre wet-weather attraction managed by the museum that would be ‘similar to the Discovery Centre’.

Plans also include an 85-bed hotel, accessible from Newberry Gardens, including a restaurant and bar with ‘interior design utilising the historic features of the brewery.

The planned work includes space for 12 shops for national and independent retailers, three restaurants or cafes and two other retail units.

There could also be a new pub/restaurant, a restaurant, eight residential apartments and five holiday apartments. The applicants hope the ‘key benefits’ of the revamp could include ‘the creation of approximately 149 full-time equivalent jobs, a net increase of approximately 71 full-time equivalent positions’ and an ‘enhanced profile for a part of the town centre which is outside of the main retail core’.

The regeneration project is predicted to cost £15million, including £8million building costs.

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8:38am Wed 1 Dec 10

RobinofLocksley says...

(quote) the ‘key benefits’ of the revamp could include ‘the creation of approximately 149 full-time equivalent jobs, a net increase of approximately 71 full-time equivalent positions’ (end quote).
Help me here:- what exactly is a full-time equivalent job?
(quote) the ‘key benefits’ of the revamp could include ‘the creation of approximately 149 full-time equivalent jobs, a net increase of approximately 71 full-time equivalent positions’ (end quote). Help me here:- what exactly is a full-time equivalent job? RobinofLocksley
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9:31am Wed 1 Dec 10

Chris S B says...

RobinofLocksley wrote:
(quote) the ‘key benefits’ of the revamp could include ‘the creation of approximately 149 full-time equivalent jobs, a net increase of approximately 71 full-time equivalent positions’ (end quote).
Help me here:- what exactly is a full-time equivalent job?
A full-time equivalent job is a benchmark against which to measure the total hours worked by a workforce, ie. eight-hours work a day, for a five-day week, 52 weeks a year is one full-time equivalent job, but possibly divided up and fulfilled by two or more part-time workers.
[quote][p][bold]RobinofLocksley[/bold] wrote: (quote) the ‘key benefits’ of the revamp could include ‘the creation of approximately 149 full-time equivalent jobs, a net increase of approximately 71 full-time equivalent positions’ (end quote). Help me here:- what exactly is a full-time equivalent job?[/p][/quote]A full-time equivalent job is a benchmark against which to measure the total hours worked by a workforce, ie. eight-hours work a day, for a five-day week, 52 weeks a year is one full-time equivalent job, but possibly divided up and fulfilled by two or more part-time workers. Chris S B
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9:35am Wed 1 Dec 10

Be_Happy says...

I love the shiney words and promises of good things to come to keep the natives happy, they will be offering us all coloured beads next.
Ignoring the smoke and mirrors the real story is the loss of 78 jos (149-71) at a time when the town is suffering other redundancies, no new jobs for 18 months, the loss of 2 big tourist attractions to be replaced with a small one run by the museum.
Oh, and the council will wave it through because they get to palm the museum off on someone again for another 15? years.
And in its place we get a travel lodge or a premier inn.
This is the way forward for Weymouth, I just wish I understand where its leading to!
I love the shiney words and promises of good things to come to keep the natives happy, they will be offering us all coloured beads next. Ignoring the smoke and mirrors the real story is the loss of 78 jos (149-71) at a time when the town is suffering other redundancies, no new jobs for 18 months, the loss of 2 big tourist attractions to be replaced with a small one run by the museum. Oh, and the council will wave it through because they get to palm the museum off on someone again for another 15? years. And in its place we get a travel lodge or a premier inn. This is the way forward for Weymouth, I just wish I understand where its leading to! Be_Happy
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11:02am Wed 1 Dec 10

585 says...

Brewers Quay partner Chris McDougall said
'The commercial reality is that some of them probably won’t be able to afford the rents but some of them will.
The rents will not be that much higher than they are now.'
Why should any rents be higher? If they want to keep the current businesses there, they should freeze the rents until they can tell whether the re-vamped site is viable, after all they could end up with a lot of empty shop sites within the re-vamped building and empty shops means no income for the building's owners.
Brewers Quay partner Chris McDougall said 'The commercial reality is that some of them probably won’t be able to afford the rents but some of them will. The rents will not be that much higher than they are now.' Why should any rents be higher? If they want to keep the current businesses there, they should freeze the rents until they can tell whether the re-vamped site is viable, after all they could end up with a lot of empty shop sites within the re-vamped building and empty shops means no income for the building's owners. 585
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11:24am Wed 1 Dec 10

Chris S B says...

585 wrote:
Brewers Quay partner Chris McDougall said
'The commercial reality is that some of them probably won’t be able to afford the rents but some of them will.
The rents will not be that much higher than they are now.'
Why should any rents be higher? If they want to keep the current businesses there, they should freeze the rents until they can tell whether the re-vamped site is viable, after all they could end up with a lot of empty shop sites within the re-vamped building and empty shops means no income for the building's owners.
Companies such as those 'carving wooden jigsaws and names' are probably being subsidised as it is. Many of the businesses in Brewers Quay are very quaint but probably have a very low turnover and small profit margin. Demand will probably dictate which businesses are best able to afford to be located in the building, unless of course the owners set too high rates for whatever reason, but these are details which should alrady form the basis of their business plan.
[quote][p][bold]585[/bold] wrote: Brewers Quay partner Chris McDougall said 'The commercial reality is that some of them probably won’t be able to afford the rents but some of them will. The rents will not be that much higher than they are now.' Why should any rents be higher? If they want to keep the current businesses there, they should freeze the rents until they can tell whether the re-vamped site is viable, after all they could end up with a lot of empty shop sites within the re-vamped building and empty shops means no income for the building's owners.[/p][/quote]Companies such as those 'carving wooden jigsaws and names' are probably being subsidised as it is. Many of the businesses in Brewers Quay are very quaint but probably have a very low turnover and small profit margin. Demand will probably dictate which businesses are best able to afford to be located in the building, unless of course the owners set too high rates for whatever reason, but these are details which should alrady form the basis of their business plan. Chris S B
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11:30am Wed 1 Dec 10

585 says...

Chris S B, Weymouth says 'Companies such as those 'carving wooden jigsaws and names' are probably being subsidised as it is'.
I don't know whether you have knowledge that this statement is factual but it is these 'quaint' businesses that tourists like to visit and it has been said that tourism is good for Weymouth.
Chris S B, Weymouth says 'Companies such as those 'carving wooden jigsaws and names' are probably being subsidised as it is'. I don't know whether you have knowledge that this statement is factual but it is these 'quaint' businesses that tourists like to visit and it has been said that tourism is good for Weymouth. 585
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12:15pm Wed 1 Dec 10

Mick from the rock says...

Chris S B wrote:
585 wrote:
Brewers Quay partner Chris McDougall said
'The commercial reality is that some of them probably won’t be able to afford the rents but some of them will.
The rents will not be that much higher than they are now.'
Why should any rents be higher? If they want to keep the current businesses there, they should freeze the rents until they can tell whether the re-vamped site is viable, after all they could end up with a lot of empty shop sites within the re-vamped building and empty shops means no income for the building's owners.
Companies such as those 'carving wooden jigsaws and names' are probably being subsidised as it is. Many of the businesses in Brewers Quay are very quaint but probably have a very low turnover and small profit margin. Demand will probably dictate which businesses are best able to afford to be located in the building, unless of course the owners set too high rates for whatever reason, but these are details which should alrady form the basis of their business plan.
what a great way of getting rid of the businesses there... and upgrading to businesses that will leave empty shops. You have to laugh at the timing of this,just before the games and during a recession,unbelievab
le.Just goes to show how un affected the rich are.
[quote][p][bold]Chris S B[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]585[/bold] wrote: Brewers Quay partner Chris McDougall said 'The commercial reality is that some of them probably won’t be able to afford the rents but some of them will. The rents will not be that much higher than they are now.' Why should any rents be higher? If they want to keep the current businesses there, they should freeze the rents until they can tell whether the re-vamped site is viable, after all they could end up with a lot of empty shop sites within the re-vamped building and empty shops means no income for the building's owners.[/p][/quote]Companies such as those 'carving wooden jigsaws and names' are probably being subsidised as it is. Many of the businesses in Brewers Quay are very quaint but probably have a very low turnover and small profit margin. Demand will probably dictate which businesses are best able to afford to be located in the building, unless of course the owners set too high rates for whatever reason, but these are details which should alrady form the basis of their business plan.[/p][/quote]what a great way of getting rid of the businesses there... and upgrading to businesses that will leave empty shops. You have to laugh at the timing of this,just before the games and during a recession,unbelievab le.Just goes to show how un affected the rich are. Mick from the rock
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12:16pm Wed 1 Dec 10

Monmouthsman says...

Would have thought that any body that could stump up a £15 million development fund would be better packing the W&P Borough Council HQ off to the Wessex stadium vicinity or New Look development area and then building something worthwhile on that premium Harbourside site. Brewers Quay would seem to be a commercially healthy and attractive to all entity where the maxim 'If it ain't broke don't fix it' should apply.
Would have thought that any body that could stump up a £15 million development fund would be better packing the W&P Borough Council HQ off to the Wessex stadium vicinity or New Look development area and then building something worthwhile on that premium Harbourside site. Brewers Quay would seem to be a commercially healthy and attractive to all entity where the maxim 'If it ain't broke don't fix it' should apply. Monmouthsman
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12:19pm Wed 1 Dec 10

Mick from the rock says...

Monmouthsman wrote:
Would have thought that any body that could stump up a £15 million development fund would be better packing the W&P Borough Council HQ off to the Wessex stadium vicinity or New Look development area and then building something worthwhile on that premium Harbourside site. Brewers Quay would seem to be a commercially healthy and attractive to all entity where the maxim 'If it ain't broke don't fix it' should apply.
SPOT ON, nail on head Monmouthsman
[quote][p][bold]Monmouthsman[/bold] wrote: Would have thought that any body that could stump up a £15 million development fund would be better packing the W&P Borough Council HQ off to the Wessex stadium vicinity or New Look development area and then building something worthwhile on that premium Harbourside site. Brewers Quay would seem to be a commercially healthy and attractive to all entity where the maxim 'If it ain't broke don't fix it' should apply.[/p][/quote]SPOT ON, nail on head Monmouthsman Mick from the rock
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12:46pm Wed 1 Dec 10

Micke12 says...

A hotel complex overlooking the harbour along North Quay, and council moved to Mercery Road. That is a great idea as long as your cheapest rooms are at the back, where all you would see is Chapelhay. The rooms at the front would be worth a fortune though. And Brewers Quay, well that would be safe for another 15 years.
A hotel complex overlooking the harbour along North Quay, and council moved to Mercery Road. That is a great idea as long as your cheapest rooms are at the back, where all you would see is Chapelhay. The rooms at the front would be worth a fortune though. And Brewers Quay, well that would be safe for another 15 years. Micke12
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1:06pm Wed 1 Dec 10

rob_d says...

How about redeveloping the disgraceful 1980's wannabe Shopping Mall "The Colewell Centre"?!
How about redeveloping the disgraceful 1980's wannabe Shopping Mall "The Colewell Centre"?! rob_d
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1:07pm Wed 1 Dec 10

thebaglady says...

Monmouthsman wrote:
Would have thought that any body that could stump up a £15 million development fund would be better packing the W&P Borough Council HQ off to the Wessex stadium vicinity or New Look development area and then building something worthwhile on that premium Harbourside site. Brewers Quay would seem to be a commercially healthy and attractive to all entity where the maxim 'If it ain't broke don't fix it' should apply.
It is broke and does need fixing. Have you been in there lately? Half the units are empty and what is in there is mostly rubbish.

This is a beautiful building in a key location. The square outside is brilliant but the inside is sorely in need of development.

I for one will be delighted if this goes ahead.
[quote][p][bold]Monmouthsman[/bold] wrote: Would have thought that any body that could stump up a £15 million development fund would be better packing the W&P Borough Council HQ off to the Wessex stadium vicinity or New Look development area and then building something worthwhile on that premium Harbourside site. Brewers Quay would seem to be a commercially healthy and attractive to all entity where the maxim 'If it ain't broke don't fix it' should apply.[/p][/quote]It is broke and does need fixing. Have you been in there lately? Half the units are empty and what is in there is mostly rubbish. This is a beautiful building in a key location. The square outside is brilliant but the inside is sorely in need of development. I for one will be delighted if this goes ahead. thebaglady
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4:31pm Wed 1 Dec 10

ETV says...

Monmouthsman wrote:
Would have thought that any body that could stump up a £15 million development fund would be better packing the W&P Borough Council HQ off to the Wessex stadium vicinity or New Look development area and then building something worthwhile on that premium Harbourside site. Brewers Quay would seem to be a commercially healthy and attractive to all entity where the maxim 'If it ain't broke don't fix it' should apply.
Couldn't agree more.

They should move the Municipal Offices, Fire Station, Courts 7 Gasometer out of town and redevelop the area into a top notch attraction.

Replace it all with a large decent quality hotel, and plenty of eateries along with harbourside seating and eating areas and the whole town would prosper!
[quote][p][bold]Monmouthsman[/bold] wrote: Would have thought that any body that could stump up a £15 million development fund would be better packing the W&P Borough Council HQ off to the Wessex stadium vicinity or New Look development area and then building something worthwhile on that premium Harbourside site. Brewers Quay would seem to be a commercially healthy and attractive to all entity where the maxim 'If it ain't broke don't fix it' should apply.[/p][/quote]Couldn't agree more. They should move the Municipal Offices, Fire Station, Courts 7 Gasometer out of town and redevelop the area into a top notch attraction. Replace it all with a large decent quality hotel, and plenty of eateries along with harbourside seating and eating areas and the whole town would prosper! ETV
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6:33pm Wed 1 Dec 10

radiator says...

Perhaps they could incorporate a karate and boxing club for w&pc members to let off steam
Perhaps they could incorporate a karate and boxing club for w&pc members to let off steam radiator
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6:58am Thu 2 Dec 10

Tremendous Eddie Tremendouson says...

What incredible negativity being displayed here; for which in reality is a very good development and a huge investment in times of economic austerity.

We should be pleased that we are seen as an area in which to invest but once again that curious Weymouth response to change seems to be in full force.
What incredible negativity being displayed here; for which in reality is a very good development and a huge investment in times of economic austerity. We should be pleased that we are seen as an area in which to invest but once again that curious Weymouth response to change seems to be in full force. Tremendous Eddie Tremendouson
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7:36am Thu 2 Dec 10

JANEAUSTEN says...

One change I would def like is that hideous gasometer to be moved, if it was feasible. What an eyesore.
One change I would def like is that hideous gasometer to be moved, if it was feasible. What an eyesore. JANEAUSTEN
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8:03am Thu 2 Dec 10

regardez says...

I agree with Tremendous Eddie, there is a lot of negativity here.
This development looks great and will be an asset to Weymouth. All you people who don't like change and don't have to maintain a building that is not economically viable, wake up and smell the coffee.
As for businesses who expect low rent in a prime site.....again wake up. This is not a charity in business working on emotion, this is the real world. Also the word competition springs to mind, if Weymouth is to stay a great destination then businesses need to grow and improve.
Well done Brewers Quay, some positive news at last. Hope you can get it done in time for the Olympics.
I agree with Tremendous Eddie, there is a lot of negativity here. This development looks great and will be an asset to Weymouth. All you people who don't like change and don't have to maintain a building that is not economically viable, wake up and smell the coffee. As for businesses who expect low rent in a prime site.....again wake up. This is not a charity in business working on emotion, this is the real world. Also the word competition springs to mind, if Weymouth is to stay a great destination then businesses need to grow and improve. Well done Brewers Quay, some positive news at last. Hope you can get it done in time for the Olympics. regardez
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8:09am Thu 2 Dec 10

regardez says...

As for the Gasometer, I think it is feasible. Correct me if i'm wrong, but with todays technology I think they could have regulator in its place that would fit inside a small building. The problem lies with cost, i.e removal of the gasometer firstly and the clean up process associated with a contaminated site.
As for the Gasometer, I think it is feasible. Correct me if i'm wrong, but with todays technology I think they could have regulator in its place that would fit inside a small building. The problem lies with cost, i.e removal of the gasometer firstly and the clean up process associated with a contaminated site. regardez
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12:36pm Thu 2 Dec 10

Monmouthsman says...

As the person responsible for taking the debate somewhat away from the original Brewers Quay proposed development I ought to redress things.
Several people make the point about the present state of low occupancy and low quality merchandise in there. Can't say that I have noticed that on several tours of the place this year but that was probably because the place was quite crowded. Clearly though if it is not profitable as is something has to change. If it is just a nice place for tourists to walk around in bad weather that is just not enough to justify keeping it unchanged. Perhaps all the hotels and guest houses of the town would like to contribute to its upkeep and promotion as a tourist amenity?
Course if it is just that the owners see a way to make loads more money out of their property and sod the people and community I'm back with the move the council out and redevelop that site bandwagon.
As the person responsible for taking the debate somewhat away from the original Brewers Quay proposed development I ought to redress things. Several people make the point about the present state of low occupancy and low quality merchandise in there. Can't say that I have noticed that on several tours of the place this year but that was probably because the place was quite crowded. Clearly though if it is not profitable as is something has to change. If it is just a nice place for tourists to walk around in bad weather that is just not enough to justify keeping it unchanged. Perhaps all the hotels and guest houses of the town would like to contribute to its upkeep and promotion as a tourist amenity? Course if it is just that the owners see a way to make loads more money out of their property and sod the people and community I'm back with the move the council out and redevelop that site bandwagon. Monmouthsman
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9:43pm Thu 2 Dec 10

Be_Happy says...

Monmouthsman wrote:
As the person responsible for taking the debate somewhat away from the original Brewers Quay proposed development I ought to redress things.
Several people make the point about the present state of low occupancy and low quality merchandise in there. Can't say that I have noticed that on several tours of the place this year but that was probably because the place was quite crowded. Clearly though if it is not profitable as is something has to change. If it is just a nice place for tourists to walk around in bad weather that is just not enough to justify keeping it unchanged. Perhaps all the hotels and guest houses of the town would like to contribute to its upkeep and promotion as a tourist amenity?
Course if it is just that the owners see a way to make loads more money out of their property and sod the people and community I'm back with the move the council out and redevelop that site bandwagon.
I think its a case of the owners selling everything they possibly can to dig themselves out of a hole, and sod the community and weymouth in general.
The replacement will be a sore loss to weymouths tourism and community.
[quote][p][bold]Monmouthsman[/bold] wrote: As the person responsible for taking the debate somewhat away from the original Brewers Quay proposed development I ought to redress things. Several people make the point about the present state of low occupancy and low quality merchandise in there. Can't say that I have noticed that on several tours of the place this year but that was probably because the place was quite crowded. Clearly though if it is not profitable as is something has to change. If it is just a nice place for tourists to walk around in bad weather that is just not enough to justify keeping it unchanged. Perhaps all the hotels and guest houses of the town would like to contribute to its upkeep and promotion as a tourist amenity? Course if it is just that the owners see a way to make loads more money out of their property and sod the people and community I'm back with the move the council out and redevelop that site bandwagon.[/p][/quote]I think its a case of the owners selling everything they possibly can to dig themselves out of a hole, and sod the community and weymouth in general. The replacement will be a sore loss to weymouths tourism and community. Be_Happy
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6:52am Fri 3 Dec 10

regardez says...

What will actually be lost ? are they knocking it down or improving it, you really are a doom and gloom merchant..... Be Happy ! Who picked your name ?
What will actually be lost ? are they knocking it down or improving it, you really are a doom and gloom merchant..... Be Happy ! Who picked your name ? regardez
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6:23pm Sat 4 Dec 10

FitterC says...

May I draw people's attention to the claim, just one year ago that Brewer's Quay is "going from strength to strength": http://www.visitorsw
eymouth.co.uk/2009/1
1/new-tenants-new-ex
pansions-and-events-
galore-at-brewers-qu
ay-the-waterfront-we
ymouth/?gltr_lang=cs


What has changed in the last year?

Nothing to do with the current ownership getting in financial troubles?

Rule 1: Always keep an eye on the fine-tuning of a successful company.

Rule 2: Never radically restructure a successful company.

I must assume that Brewer's Quay is heading down the pan and that this is a last ditch gamble.

The scent of Howerd Holdings still lingers...
May I draw people's attention to the claim, just one year ago that Brewer's Quay is "going from strength to strength": http://www.visitorsw eymouth.co.uk/2009/1 1/new-tenants-new-ex pansions-and-events- galore-at-brewers-qu ay-the-waterfront-we ymouth/?gltr_lang=cs What has changed in the last year? Nothing to do with the current ownership getting in financial troubles? Rule 1: Always keep an eye on the fine-tuning of a successful company. Rule 2: Never radically restructure a successful company. I must assume that Brewer's Quay is heading down the pan and that this is a last ditch gamble. The scent of Howerd Holdings still lingers... FitterC
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