Olympics woe: Weymouth hoteliers fear loss of thousands during Games summer (From Dorset Echo)
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Olympics woe: Weymouth hoteliers fear loss of thousands during Games summer
11:30am Tuesday 29th May 2012 in Local News By Emma Walker and Samantha Harman
Brunswick Terrace hoteliers, from left, Linda Mann, Wayne Nicholas, Martin Weller, Paul Nash, Carol Owen, Sue Leach,Glyn Owen, Alison Weller, Diane Rogers and Rose Brunt
WORRIED hoteliers in Weymouth fear losing thousands of pounds as visitors avoid the 2012 Olympics after what has already been branded ‘the worst season ever’.
Booking diaries are startlingly empty for July and August with some guesthouse owners set to lose more than £5,000 whilst others cannot afford to pay their rent.
The departure of Condor Ferries, poor weather and a two-year roadwork blitz ahead of the Olympics are being blamed for a bad business cycle, despite promises that 2012 would be the most prosperous year yet.
Research shows nearly a third of Dorset hotels are at risk of failure in the next year.
Mark Brunt, of Brunswick Guest House in Brunswick Terrace, said: “None of the regulars are coming during the Olympics because they think it will be so busy. It’s certainly not the cash cow the organisers have been saying it will be.”
Martin Weller, owner of Channel View Guest House in Brunswick Terrace, said: “I would say 75 per cent of our regulars are not coming.
“I'm losing between £5,000 and £7,000 over the three to four Olympic weeks.
“We’ve got no bookings from Olympic visitors, either. It’s not what I was expecting, what with all the council has been saying.”
Businesses have said radio adverts telling people the area will be congested has put visitors off. A public awareness campaign called Get Ahead of the Games is being run by the Olympic Delivery Authority to warn potential visitors of the need to make travel plans early.
Mr Weller added: “The adverts on the radio are saying there will be 60,000 people and it makes visitors think twice about coming here.”
Hugh Sumner, director of transport at the Olympic Delivery Authority said: “The road and public transport network in the local area will be exceptionally busy during the Games and so, to ensure that everyone can make the most of things this summer, it’s important that both residents and visitors are advised to plan their travel at the same time as they are making their hotel bookings, not leave it to the last minute.”
Peter Penman, owner of Horizon Guest House on the seafront, said: “It's cost me about £3,000 in bookings over the Olympic period. There's been so much hype over how busy it will be and it’s put people off.”
Some have said the council needs to advertise events that will be going on away from the Games after the huge drop in custom. Loraine Godwin, owner of The Richmoor Hotel and Shelley’s Restaurant on The Esplanade, said: “I am very concerned. This time last year we were almost full.
“In the long term we will benefit here, but the question is: ‘Who else is going to make it?’ “We need to advertise Weymouth more – all people are hearing about is how crowded it is going to be when the Olympics come.”
Sue Leach, owner of Sunnyside Guest House, said: “Half the regulars who come down for the carnival aren’t coming. They say it’s going to be too busy and the traffic will be horrific. I have already lost more than £1,000 because this season has been so quiet.
“I am very concerned. I can’t afford to pay my rent.”
We must remain positive
CHAIRMAN of the Weymouth and Portland Hoteliers and Leaseholders Association, David Price, pictured right, of The Molyneux Guest House is calling for more positivity ahead of the Games.
Mr Price said although some of his regular customers are not returning, other bookings will make this year as successful as any other.
He said: “It has been the worst April we have had in six years because of the weather and the economy but we have got to stay positive.
“We look set to lose some of our regular customers and it is worrying to think they will go somewhere else and not come back.
“But we are open and ready for people to come here.
“We really need more positive promotion of Weymouth outside of the town."
Comments(53)
Fred Kite
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11:50am Tue 29 May 12
Never Wrong
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12:18pm Tue 29 May 12
Mind you this report is ironic when we are having a fabulous weather period.
Why don't you all get together a put a advert campain out yourselves instead relying on the council to do your work...
portlandresident
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12:27pm Tue 29 May 12
I say to those who want to visit and enjoy a holiday; 'come on down'... We're open for business! See you soon!
Monmouthsman
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12:29pm Tue 29 May 12
tedbungy
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12:34pm Tue 29 May 12
No suprise they aint coming back
irisred
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12:53pm Tue 29 May 12
I think its a brilliant suggestion to start a short run of an adverising campaign of their own and get on the booking websites. Surely a lower priced filled room is better than an empty one??
On the plus side, this does seem to indicate that there won't be anywhere near the traffic issues they're predicting. Bonus!
roger goss
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2:31pm Tue 29 May 12
Brian.H
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2:44pm Tue 29 May 12
BaileyCat
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2:58pm Tue 29 May 12
nearlythere
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3:27pm Tue 29 May 12
people look at this c##p paper
online and all they see are negative comments about Weymouth,start selling the resort and B&B`s do special deals to get people in.
I have lost about 2 grand due to all the rain and bad weather,but this weekend l will be making the most of the sunshine(hopefully)
susanrhughes@googlemail.com
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4:24pm Tue 29 May 12
Buckles
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4:50pm Tue 29 May 12
Maybe b&b's are not cost effective for families anymore and that is part of the problem.
maximan
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5:20pm Tue 29 May 12
nearlythere wrote:Okay ..."guest houses say everything is wonderful"... it's a lie but as long as you're happy
why cant the ECHO, be more positive in their headlines.!!!!
people look at this c##p paper
online and all they see are negative comments about Weymouth,start selling the resort and B&B`s do special deals to get people in.
I have lost about 2 grand due to all the rain and bad weather,but this weekend l will be making the most of the sunshine(hopefully)
Chris Bratchell
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5:35pm Tue 29 May 12
The official advertising has been very unhelpful, they should have included some of the positive news as given by portlandresident, instead it just sounds like a "Do Not Come" message.
The tourism officials in local government seem to be in denial, will not admit there is a problem, the smug "wonderful opportunity" statements are nauseating.
Right now we need it clearly said that the main Olympics are just two weeks, Weymouth is open for business, and everyone can still have a great holiday here. We need to remember that our core business is with ordinary holidaymakers. We also need good weather so we can get the late bookings. We need people planning now to ensure there is an Olympics legacy for ordinary businesses in 2013 and beyond. Weymouth cannot prosper without a thriving tourism sector.
And, BaileyCat, very many guest houses and such businesses did not put their prices up specially for the Olympics.
I'mavoter
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6:17pm Tue 29 May 12
Fred Kite wrote:You 'd moan too if it was YOUR business that was suffering !
Gold medal for moaning?
bootedsw
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6:22pm Tue 29 May 12
I'mavoter
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6:37pm Tue 29 May 12
roger goss wrote:And the non-visitors have probably heard that most of the town centre roads will be closed to traffic during the wretched olympics, and the new Park & Ride won't be available to them either( unless you pay £10 + a £2.50 booking charge, and book a place ) Harbour mooring fees
Is it me or are there others,I always said the only winners in the olympics would not be the the residents of Weymouth and Portland,those in charge will get their palms crossed with silver,those that gain could be the employed as they may find it easier to get to and from work, a total waste of council tax.
are Trebling during the Olympic
period.
siratb
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6:40pm Tue 29 May 12
Buckles wrote:Exactly. I did this a while back. I worked out that it is cheaper (and less hassle) for a family of 4 from Birmingham say, to fly EasyJet to Majorca, stay for a week in a modern hotel complex with guaranteed sun and cheap sangria, than to drive to Weymouth and stay is some hotel which lets be frank, looks like it is decorated by the set designers of East Enders.
I have just been on www.bookings.com and got a quote of £840 during the peak holiday season for a family room (2 adults & 2 children) for 7 nights in a seafront b&b and for a family of 4 to stay in a local holiday park with lots of facilities, including swimming pools, nightly entertainment, bars and restaurants on site the cost was £726.
Maybe b&b's are not cost effective for families anymore and that is part of the problem.
Peter Baylis
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6:43pm Tue 29 May 12
Peter Baylis
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6:43pm Tue 29 May 12
YerTisThsUn
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7:04pm Tue 29 May 12
212 dorset
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7:25pm Tue 29 May 12
I'mavoter wrote:If it were MY business I'd rather fill the rooms up at sensible prices and have it full up rather than price prople out the market with ridiculous pricing. I'd also not be running to the Echo moaning, i'd be looking at innovative ways to get my guest house full up throughout the summer. Im not at all in favour of the Olympics, as I feel its going to come and go without much fuss, but theres huge potential to make money, and if I was lucky enough to have a guets house, I'd be making the most of it by thinking positively and not constantly moaning to the local rag about how sorry we should feel for you.
Fred Kite wrote: Gold medal for moaning?You 'd moan too if it was YOUR business that was suffering !
I'mavoter
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7:26pm Tue 29 May 12
Peter Baylis wrote:Unless of course it was YOUR hotel that losing bookings & income ! Wonder if you'd have made the same comment then.
I would be more worried about having another tragedy at sea during the Olympics, rather than moaning about hotel bookings. Get things in perspective.
212 dorset
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7:33pm Tue 29 May 12
davescorpio0
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7:47pm Tue 29 May 12
weymouthfox
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8:04pm Tue 29 May 12
ksmain
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8:36pm Tue 29 May 12
I think that I would ask myself a question - if I were a holidaymaker would I:
1. Want to spend a long time queuing to get in and out of Weymouth or waiting to get into designated areas to park as, I personally believe that the road system here will not be able to cope and more than half the roads in Weymouth Town Centre are shut.
2. Want to come here knowing that half of the normally accessable public facilities are off limits or inhabited by those watching the Olympics. After all, the beach is being taken over by a giant screen, the Nothe area is off limits, and who in their right mind would want to slog their way through to Portland.
3. I wouldnt mind betting that some will be expecting that prices will go up over the duration.
4. On top of that there is no guaranteeing the weather. I would certainly be unhappy if the weather was bad, and having to put up with all of the 3 above.
I personally think that because of the above, that Weymouth would be a hard sell this year. I also cant say I have seen much evidence of the Council in encouraging their normal tourists to come here this year. I also reckon that most of the supposed 60,000 piling into Weymouth will be day trippers and not likely to stay in Weymouth anyway.
I certainly wont be here - I am off abroad while members of my family look after the house. It would be interesting to know if the booking of holidays out of the area by Weymouth residents has gone up this year! I believe that whether the Olympics benefit Weymouth long term remains to be seen.
mr w
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8:53pm Tue 29 May 12
The Yardie
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9:27pm Tue 29 May 12
ONCE IS MORE THAN ENOUGH.
Get a grip
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10:06pm Tue 29 May 12
wurzelbasher
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10:12pm Tue 29 May 12
jmc1
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10:13pm Tue 29 May 12
The Yardie wrote:I suspect it will be the last time,as when it's all over, the country will be well and truly bankrupt by then
Thank goodness that the Olymprics will never happen again (I hope) in the UK duing our lifetime.
ONCE IS MORE THAN ENOUGH.
I'mavoter
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12:24am Wed 30 May 12
Buckles wrote:What you are conveniently leaving out of your comment, is that the B&B price includes a nice home cooked hearty breakfast, which the holiday park prices Do Not ! If you went to the holiday park cafe for breakfast, that would probably cost you an extra £5 per head,per day. Add that cost to your weekly cost comparison ! If you are going to compare prices, do it accurately and fairly !
I have just been on www.bookings.com and got a quote of £840 during the peak holiday season for a family room (2 adults & 2 children) for 7 nights in a seafront b&b and for a family of 4 to stay in a local holiday park with lots of facilities, including swimming pools, nightly entertainment, bars and restaurants on site the cost was £726.
Maybe b&b's are not cost effective for families anymore and that is part of the problem.
I'mavoter
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12:28am Wed 30 May 12
212 dorset wrote:So you'd run your virtual guest house at a loss then ?
I'mavoter wrote:If it were MY business I'd rather fill the rooms up at sensible prices and have it full up rather than price prople out the market with ridiculous pricing. I'd also not be running to the Echo moaning, i'd be looking at innovative ways to get my guest house full up throughout the summer. Im not at all in favour of the Olympics, as I feel its going to come and go without much fuss, but theres huge potential to make money, and if I was lucky enough to have a guets house, I'd be making the most of it by thinking positively and not constantly moaning to the local rag about how sorry we should feel for you.
Fred Kite wrote: Gold medal for moaning?You 'd moan too if it was YOUR business that was suffering !
portland rebel
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12:55am Wed 30 May 12
I'mavoter
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1:06am Wed 30 May 12
212 dorset wrote:Don't make assumptions. I don't own a hotel or guest house !
I'mavoter....Maybe you should reveal which hotel/guest house you own, and then we may feel more sympathy for you, unless you've followed suit and put your prices at an unrealistic level for the average man on the street.??
ijwufo68
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6:48am Wed 30 May 12
markerpen
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9:22am Wed 30 May 12
There are enough problems in Weymouth without cutting your own throats guys.
siratb
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9:22am Wed 30 May 12
2012 TARIFF
Per person per night
Weekly Low Season
£32 - £34 weekly from £224
.
Med Season
£34 - £36 weekly from £238
.
High Season
£36 - £38 weekly from £252
.
2012 Olympic Games
29th July - 11th August
£50 - £60 weekly from £350
.
and
.
Tariff Daily Weekly
£32pp - £38pp £180pp - £228pp
7 nights for the price of 6
Olympic dates 28th July - 11th Aug £50pp
.
.
So for a family of 4 to come to Weymouth for a week during the Olympics, I make that £1400. Hmmm, Easyjet and spain sounds a better deal. It is no wonder the regulars are not coming down!
monkeydog
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9:53am Wed 30 May 12
Portland G
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10:30am Wed 30 May 12
212 dorset
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11:17am Wed 30 May 12
I'mavoter wrote:"So you'd run your virtual guest house at a loss then"?? If you cant charge sensible prices for your rooms I suggest whoever the hotellier is , is in the worng business and needs to change career paths!
212 dorset wrote:So you'd run your virtual guest house at a loss then ?I'mavoter wrote:If it were MY business I'd rather fill the rooms up at sensible prices and have it full up rather than price prople out the market with ridiculous pricing. I'd also not be running to the Echo moaning, i'd be looking at innovative ways to get my guest house full up throughout the summer. Im not at all in favour of the Olympics, as I feel its going to come and go without much fuss, but theres huge potential to make money, and if I was lucky enough to have a guets house, I'd be making the most of it by thinking positively and not constantly moaning to the local rag about how sorry we should feel for you.Fred Kite wrote: Gold medal for moaning?You 'd moan too if it was YOUR business that was suffering !
AndyCooke
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4:06pm Wed 30 May 12
This is a tough season for many not just in Weymouth but along the entire south coast.
Unfortunately every time an article like this appears in the Echo it just ends up doing more harm than good.
Whilst times are tough there are plenty of ways our guest houses can act now to generate bookings and if any of them would like to contact me to to discuss and review their current marketing activities my company would be delighted to work with them ... 01305 773777
birken
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6:18pm Wed 30 May 12
ksmain
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7:27pm Wed 30 May 12
Portland G wrote:Exactly the problem right here. Plus you cant guarantee the weather (in Cyprus in August you can) and you will have limited access to certain things that in normal seasons you wouldnt have.
I have also just been on to bookings.com and very interesting it was too. Out of 87 hotels it was only showing 18 with availabilty for 27/7 to 11/8 and most of those shown only had 1 or 2 rooms left. One guest house on there was quoting £3080 for the 11 days for 1 room with 2 adults occupying on B & B. Having just returned from Cyprus 4 adults had a 2 weeks stay including flights for about £1600. It would seem from this article that there are conflicting reports of the situation. On the one hand we are being told that the hotels/guest house are virtually empty, on the other hand there seems to be a lack of accomodation but then the prices the are being quoted do seem to be extortionate. It is a no brainer really, Weymouth for £3000+ or Cyprus for almost half.
Some businesses need a reality check and pitch their prices accordingly. This is the reason that we NEVER have our main holiday in the UK as it comes across to us as a financial ripoff!!!!
Linda Mann
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8:42pm Wed 30 May 12
Desk24
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11:28pm Wed 30 May 12
pd7
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9:21am Thu 31 May 12
This could have been nice for Dorset but the way it has been managed and planned is a disaster.
The only real motivation for it is how much money you can make out of it. But in the real life this is not going to happen.
Looking at a few boats hundreds of meters of shore is not a crowd puller.
I am just keeping well away from the complete farce that is starting to unfold.
This should have been a world class event with world class support.
But I have been to better sports days at primary schools.
boobooweymouth
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1:58pm Thu 31 May 12
Linda Mann wrote:Interesting to read your perspective Linda. Out of interest why did you go to the Echo with this? Why not just take a simple business decision to reduce your pricing slightly to increase bookings?
I am in the picture above, and as someone on here comments we are a sorry and glum looking bunch. We probably weren't at our best having served breakfast and cleaned rooms for a few hours before being pushed out in the rain and told by the Echo not to smile! I agree with some of the comments on here, and Im sure lots of you have watched 4 in a bed or the Hotel Inspector and think you could do better, and maybe you could. Yes we do nearly all advertise on bookings.com or late rooms, which is not free for us as most people think but costs a minimum of 15% per booking. Good luck with passing that on to your guests. In six years my business has gone from mostly people phoning up or knocking on the door to being largely internet based. We had set our prices on the advice of booking.com and other industry and Olympic and Travel industry advisors as to be honest we had not a clue how to pitch it. Nobody expects to pay the 'usual' prices when any event is on, be it a concert or The Olympics. I am very positive about The Olympics and think it is a marvelous opportunity for beautiful Weymouth to Showcase itself to the world.
fastjet
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2:39pm Sun 3 Jun 12
siratb wrote:Just a shower of money grabbing sods!!!**!
Here are a couple of tariffs I pulled off the web at random:
2012 TARIFF
Per person per night
Weekly Low Season
£32 - £34 weekly from £224
.
Med Season
£34 - £36 weekly from £238
.
High Season
£36 - £38 weekly from £252
.
2012 Olympic Games
29th July - 11th August
£50 - £60 weekly from £350
.
and
.
Tariff Daily Weekly
£32pp - £38pp £180pp - £228pp
7 nights for the price of 6
Olympic dates 28th July - 11th Aug £50pp
.
.
So for a family of 4 to come to Weymouth for a week during the Olympics, I make that £1400. Hmmm, Easyjet and spain sounds a better deal. It is no wonder the regulars are not coming down!
monkeydog
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6:00pm Sun 3 Jun 12
siratb wrote:Those prices are actually quite reasonable. The comparison with EasyJet and Spain is quite absurd without further information. People come to Weymouth because they choose to. If they preferred to go with EasyJet to Spain they would. Guesthouses set their prices according to a number of criteria and they are subject to prices for essential services and goods which are non-negotiable and they have to cover price hikes in gas and electricity just as every other citizen has to. Before they even open their doors they've spent £2-3000 pounds on insurance, advertising, decorating etc.To suggest as one person said that they are geedy 'sods' is ill-informed and stupid. Most people who run guesthouses earn little more than the average wage if they are lucky and they work very hard to get that. Without them Weymouth would be a dead town and these miserable people having a go at them would find themselves living in a less attractive and lively town. And, for what it's worth, the regulars are not coming because of adverse publicity re the Olympics and poor Council management, not the b&b prices. Before you come out with such absurd comments get your facts right.
Here are a couple of tariffs I pulled off the web at random:
2012 TARIFF
Per person per night
Weekly Low Season
£32 - £34 weekly from £224
.
Med Season
£34 - £36 weekly from £238
.
High Season
£36 - £38 weekly from £252
.
2012 Olympic Games
29th July - 11th August
£50 - £60 weekly from £350
.
and
.
Tariff Daily Weekly
£32pp - £38pp £180pp - £228pp
7 nights for the price of 6
Olympic dates 28th July - 11th Aug £50pp
.
.
So for a family of 4 to come to Weymouth for a week during the Olympics, I make that £1400. Hmmm, Easyjet and spain sounds a better deal. It is no wonder the regulars are not coming down!
Lizzy Bennett
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1:28pm Mon 4 Jun 12
I was speaking to a B&B owner the other day and he is full because he is charging sensib le pric es.
Dont blame the Olympics for our crap weather this year.
ohcetesrod says...
11:45am Tue 29 May 12
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I would like to think this will help the rooms pretty quick?