SaturDADS go down to Thorncombe Woods

Dorset Echo: Thorncombe Woods Thorncombe Woods

DADS who go down to the woods next week will be in for a treat.

Fathers, granddads, uncles and other male carers of young children are invited to take part in a special ‘SaturDADS’ day at Thorncombe Woods on Saturday, December 14.

Dorchester Children’s Centre runs ‘SaturDADS’ activities on the second and fourth Saturday of each month between 10.30am and 12.00pm at Dorchester Children’s Centre, Poundbury.

SaturDADS days include regular visits to the woods, joining up with the Dorset Forest School where participants get involved with outdoor activities such as fire building, wreath making and felt crafts.

On the next Saturday event, a number of children’s centres will be joining the Dorset Forest School for fun and games in the woods with mince pies and soup for snacks.

The focus is on dads, grandfathers or male carers getting together with their children and having fun.

Fiona Evans, activity worker at the Children’s Centre said: “Forest School activities give children the opportunity to learn about nature and wildlife in a natural outdoor environment.

“There is time in each session for children to explore, learn and play in our woods with their dads, grandfathers or carers.”

Cabinet member for Children’s Services at Dorset County Council Rebecca Knox said: “The inclusion of male role models in the lives of young children is of utmost importance.

“Children need strong male role models and the SaturDADS group is all about getting dads, granddads or uncles and other male carers together with their children and enjoying the great outdoors.”

To book your place on the special ‘SaturDADS Day’ on December 14, or for further information about Dorchester Children’s Centre call Fiona Evans on 01305 221348 or visit www.dorsetforyou.com/childrenscentres/dorchester SaturDADs also runs at Bridport and Sherborne Children’s Centres on a fortnightly basis.

For further information contact those centres directly for more details.

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10:43am Sun 8 Dec 13

David_divenghy2 says...

What a shame that the Echo is happy to somewhat cynically post this, while the rest of the time it is happy to support the gender feminist groups along with state dept's and 3rd sector apparatchik's, who politically rally to create these situations in society? Knowing what I know excuse me while I scoff at Rebbeca Knox's platitudes.

What needs to be looked at in more detail and uncovered to the public is why there are so many kids in this situation. Why our family court system is so incredibly bias against Fathers and why there is a clear agenda to remove the role of Fathers and men from society while shepherding children into a position of "State parenting" and 3rd sector chattels.

The very term SATurdads, is an insult to tens of thousands of men who are denied meaningful relationships with their own children, many by the "children's services" who are behind this idea and who at times deliberately work to deny fathers contact. Society sees men as little more than sperm donors and walking wallets while paying them lip service in the press like this.

The Echo may do well to answer a question put to it first?

http://j4mb.wordpres
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What a shame that the Echo is happy to somewhat cynically post this, while the rest of the time it is happy to support the gender feminist groups along with state dept's and 3rd sector apparatchik's, who politically rally to create these situations in society? Knowing what I know excuse me while I scoff at Rebbeca Knox's platitudes. What needs to be looked at in more detail and uncovered to the public is why there are so many kids in this situation. Why our family court system is so incredibly bias against Fathers and why there is a clear agenda to remove the role of Fathers and men from society while shepherding children into a position of "State parenting" and 3rd sector chattels. The very term SATurdads, is an insult to tens of thousands of men who are denied meaningful relationships with their own children, many by the "children's services" who are behind this idea and who at times deliberately work to deny fathers contact. Society sees men as little more than sperm donors and walking wallets while paying them lip service in the press like this. The Echo may do well to answer a question put to it first? http://j4mb.wordpres s.com/2013/12/07/our -public-challenge-of -toby-granville-grou p-editor-of-the-dors et-echo-in-response- to-comment-deletions -following-complaint s/ David_divenghy2

11:12am Sun 8 Dec 13

David_divenghy2 says...

I would also ask are there any MEN running these activities? I was not aware "wreath making and felt crafts" was an outdoor pursuit for strong male role models?
I would also ask are there any MEN running these activities? I was not aware "wreath making and felt crafts" was an outdoor pursuit for strong male role models? David_divenghy2

1:50pm Sun 8 Dec 13

alanbow says...

David, You make some real interesting comments.
I'm seeing more and more of these "deletions" when perfectly polite questions are comments are being deleted for ideological reasons of an administrator or editor
Ive just complained to the Avon Partnership on this very topic. Hmmmmmm.
This is an insidious and worrying move against free speech.
Please keep us updated - I'll be watching closely for editorial comment.
David, You make some real interesting comments. I'm seeing more and more of these "deletions" when perfectly polite questions are comments are being deleted for ideological reasons of an administrator or editor Ive just complained to the Avon Partnership on this very topic. Hmmmmmm. This is an insidious and worrying move against free speech. Please keep us updated - I'll be watching closely for editorial comment. alanbow

2:13pm Sun 8 Dec 13

David_divenghy2 says...

Yes Alan, it is something that has got worse, especially over the last 20 years, coincidentally in line with the increase of certain political agenda's. It is also taking place on local government social network sites as well as the online press.

I shall look forward to Mr Granville's explanations or any statement to Mike Buchanan of the Justice for Men and boys party (J4MB), as to why some comments were deleted recently (and in the past) that were neither offensive or libelous as claimed by him, but posted in retort to false or misleading feminist propaganda and hate speech by the same. As far as I know he is currently in denial and refuses to commit to any meaningful correspondence but I don;t know any further on that.

Also while not wanting to stray of the articles theme too much, the couple of questions raised above in comments being answered would be nice too.
Yes Alan, it is something that has got worse, especially over the last 20 years, coincidentally in line with the increase of certain political agenda's. It is also taking place on local government social network sites as well as the online press. I shall look forward to Mr Granville's explanations or any statement to Mike Buchanan of the Justice for Men and boys party (J4MB), as to why some comments were deleted recently (and in the past) that were neither offensive or libelous as claimed by him, but posted in retort to false or misleading feminist propaganda and hate speech by the same. As far as I know he is currently in denial and refuses to commit to any meaningful correspondence but I don;t know any further on that. Also while not wanting to stray of the articles theme too much, the couple of questions raised above in comments being answered would be nice too. David_divenghy2

2:25pm Sun 8 Dec 13

janetwilkinson says...

I support this to specifically involve dads, what I don't support is the patronising comments of Rebecca Knox "The inclusion of male role models in the lives of young children is of utmost importance."

Male role models are crucial to any child upbringing. Male role models are equally as important as female role models if not more important. I usually find the Echo quite balanced and gender neutral but allowing weighted comments like what we have seen from Rebecca which clearly show a bias which is a disappointing move by the echo.

Whats more you are now censoring comments and deleting accounts on your posts ? Again I did not think the echo was in to that type of censorship.
I support this to specifically involve dads, what I don't support is the patronising comments of Rebecca Knox "The inclusion of male role models in the lives of young children is of utmost importance." Male role models are crucial to any child upbringing. Male role models are equally as important as female role models if not more important. I usually find the Echo quite balanced and gender neutral but allowing weighted comments like what we have seen from Rebecca which clearly show a bias which is a disappointing move by the echo. Whats more you are now censoring comments and deleting accounts on your posts ? Again I did not think the echo was in to that type of censorship. janetwilkinson

4:01pm Sun 8 Dec 13

alanbow says...

David_divenghy2 wrote:
Yes Alan, it is something that has got worse, especially over the last 20 years, coincidentally in line with the increase of certain political agenda's. It is also taking place on local government social network sites as well as the online press.

I shall look forward to Mr Granville's explanations or any statement to Mike Buchanan of the Justice for Men and boys party (J4MB), as to why some comments were deleted recently (and in the past) that were neither offensive or libelous as claimed by him, but posted in retort to false or misleading feminist propaganda and hate speech by the same. As far as I know he is currently in denial and refuses to commit to any meaningful correspondence but I don;t know any further on that.

Also while not wanting to stray of the articles theme too much, the couple of questions raised above in comments being answered would be nice too.
Perhaps this is just a trial for a new paradigm?
The State uses our taxpayers to adopt of our children 24/7 by their usual methods then allows Dads to have access at weekends.
Didn't I once read that this was a Totalitarian concept for certain groups?
[quote][p][bold]David_divenghy2[/bold] wrote: Yes Alan, it is something that has got worse, especially over the last 20 years, coincidentally in line with the increase of certain political agenda's. It is also taking place on local government social network sites as well as the online press. I shall look forward to Mr Granville's explanations or any statement to Mike Buchanan of the Justice for Men and boys party (J4MB), as to why some comments were deleted recently (and in the past) that were neither offensive or libelous as claimed by him, but posted in retort to false or misleading feminist propaganda and hate speech by the same. As far as I know he is currently in denial and refuses to commit to any meaningful correspondence but I don;t know any further on that. Also while not wanting to stray of the articles theme too much, the couple of questions raised above in comments being answered would be nice too.[/p][/quote]Perhaps this is just a trial for a new paradigm? The State uses our taxpayers to adopt of our children 24/7 by their usual methods then allows Dads to have access at weekends. Didn't I once read that this was a Totalitarian concept for certain groups? alanbow

4:17pm Sun 8 Dec 13

Mike Buchanan says...

Alanbow, men in the UK pay 72% of the income tax, and women just 28%. Regardless, the state assaults the interests of men (and boys) - through its actions and inactions - to advantage women (and girls) in many areas, as we detail in our public consultation document. 20 areas at the moment, our 2015 general election manifesto will probably have 25+. Link to the document here:

http://j4mb.wordpres
s.com/our-public-con
sultation-exercise-2
/

Mike Buchanan

JUSTICE FOR MEN & BOYS
(and the women who love them)

http://j4mb.org.uk
Alanbow, men in the UK pay 72% of the income tax, and women just 28%. Regardless, the state assaults the interests of men (and boys) - through its actions and inactions - to advantage women (and girls) in many areas, as we detail in our public consultation document. 20 areas at the moment, our 2015 general election manifesto will probably have 25+. Link to the document here: http://j4mb.wordpres s.com/our-public-con sultation-exercise-2 / Mike Buchanan JUSTICE FOR MEN & BOYS (and the women who love them) http://j4mb.org.uk Mike Buchanan

4:33pm Sun 8 Dec 13

David_divenghy2 says...

I would still like to know:

How many Men they have employed running these courses or involved in organising and designing them. How many of those men are Fathers who have experience with fathers/men's issues and Male needs.

What " Felt craft and wreath making" has to do with strong male roles and outdoor pursuits.

Who runs these courses exactly, is it directly employed council workers solely or is any part of it outsourced or a 3rd sector group?
I would still like to know: How many Men they have employed running these courses or involved in organising and designing them. How many of those men are Fathers who have experience with fathers/men's issues and Male needs. What " Felt craft and wreath making" has to do with strong male roles and outdoor pursuits. Who runs these courses exactly, is it directly employed council workers solely or is any part of it outsourced or a 3rd sector group? David_divenghy2

11:06pm Sun 8 Dec 13

LindyD says...

Do the people who organise these courses realise how patronising it is to Fathers, Grandfathers, etc., suggesting that a 'male role' figure is important and organising a course is the only way to get fathers in touch with their children. The first hurdle many fathers have to overcome is actually seeing their children on a Saturday or any other day come to that. I am sure all fathers are well aware what their kids like to do, cinema, sport, swimming, playing on the beach they just want the opportunity to do it. I am a mother and a grandmother and know how much contact most Dads have with their children is at the 'whim' of the mother who uses the children as a weapon as to their feelings towards the father at the time. If both parties really have the children's interest at heart then civilised behaviour is needed NOT programmed events. The only benefit I see is that at least the men will have the opportunity to talk to other men in the same position. What I would really like to see is the Mums invited as well so the kids can actually see their parents getting on together - NOW THAT WOULD BE PROGRESS.
Do the people who organise these courses realise how patronising it is to Fathers, Grandfathers, etc., suggesting that a 'male role' figure is important and organising a course is the only way to get fathers in touch with their children. The first hurdle many fathers have to overcome is actually seeing their children on a Saturday or any other day come to that. I am sure all fathers are well aware what their kids like to do, cinema, sport, swimming, playing on the beach they just want the opportunity to do it. I am a mother and a grandmother and know how much contact most Dads have with their children is at the 'whim' of the mother who uses the children as a weapon as to their feelings towards the father at the time. If both parties really have the children's interest at heart then civilised behaviour is needed NOT programmed events. The only benefit I see is that at least the men will have the opportunity to talk to other men in the same position. What I would really like to see is the Mums invited as well so the kids can actually see their parents getting on together - NOW THAT WOULD BE PROGRESS. LindyD

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